Lol no, all he does is take sources which are mostly pr statements spin or rumors. You clearly believe his sources which is what I was saying. Here I'll give you something more accurate, the last two Gens both headed by Iwata saw a handheld release before home console. GC was the worst selling yet Iwata still chose to release DS and replace GBA which was selling nearly ps2 levels. It safe to say Soundwave doesn't know what he's talking about because he's speaking from a FANS perspective. Wiiu release schedule looks no more worst than any other WiiU year which any nintyfan can tell you, a final year for Ninty looks much worst than the other years. Pokken Tounament isnt some side project from them, it's probably the main poke games home consoles are gonna get. All of that tells me, just because you, Soundwave, or anyone aren't content with WiiU performance, library, or finances doesn't mean shit to Ninty. They will ride with what they have until the time is right.

To add to my post, all Soundwave has is rumors, pr spin, and patents. I have Nintys relevant history(Iwata era) and release schedule.

"Here I'll give you something more accurate, the last two Gens both headed by Iwata saw a handheld release before home console. GC was the worst selling yet Iwata still chose to release DS and replace GBA which was selling nearly ps2 levels"

You may not have been aware of this, but Iwata... isn't running things anymore...

I don't get what this has to do with anything, anyway. If the NX ends up being a hybrid system or a handheld that has a method to play games on a TV when at home, then does it matter that handhelds traditionally launch before consoles? The DS only replaced the GBA after it proved it could carry the torch as a viable handheld successor two years into it's life. Plenty of GBA games were releasing until that point. And the whole reason the DS even launched as early as it did was because Nintendo feared the PSP.

I have said before that it doesn't matter to me whether the NX launches this year or not. If I had my druthers, I probably would have it release next year. I have about 30-40 Wii U games still sitting in shrink wrap or downloaded but not yet played alone, on top of Star Fox Zero preordered and money set aside for both Zeldas and Genei Ibun Roku, not to mention the 30-40 3DS games I have yet to play, the 10 or so DS games I have yet to play, and the half-dozen GBA games I have yet to play. I am one of the proudest Wii U owners on this site, brah. If Nintendo didn't announce another new Wii U game between now and the NX launch, I wouldn't be displeased with the amount of content I have played or will eventually play on it.

If it were a hybrid it would solve a huge issue from this gen, the fact that the controller boosted the cost of the console. If you release the handheld first, then you could release a sku that didn't have the controller and cut that cost for people who buy the home console. In this scenario it would be easy to see why the handheld/controller would launch first. This would also get the consumers who know they would only have to spend $200 and have their entire library of games they have on their handheld (the product which historically sells lots more than their home consoles) on the big screen. Anyone with a handheld would have a second controller (yet again generally the larger margin of Nintendo product owners). It makes perfect sense.

If it were a handheld completely seperate from the home console, but shared the same library of games, I'd say the whole premise of releasing two devices would be redundant and would canabalize each other more so than any other gen of Nintendo home consoles and handhelds. They may as well kept the devices completely seperate.

What if there is both a hybrid model and the regular pocket portable and "shoe box sized" console models later on?

We don't know. To be honest it's probably for the best that Nintendo try some different things this gen, trying to compete on the same ol' formula is simply not working for them for a myriad of reasons. 

We need to know what the system is before we can say what can and can't happen. 

Why sell the most expensive model first? They have been actively seeking for ways to get the handheld at around $200, and the home console to $250. Releasing a hybrid right out of the gate wouldn't do that, and I don't see many people shelving out $400 for a Nintendo console hybrid or not.

I'm saying the hybrid would be $250 ... for a device that can be used as a console in the house (can output to a TV), but also be played outside of the house. Right now the Wii U + 3DS XL cost consumers $500, so to get basically the same functionality for half the price would be a coup. 

Since this device would basically fill the "sweet spot" as the general Nintendo hardware, the other NX devices can aim more at different audiences, there's no point in having 3 different SKUs if they're all meant to attract the same audience. 

This is basically how most "unified hardware platforms" work ... Apple offers the base iPhone and base iPad ... but for people who are willing to spend more there is the iPad Pro, iPhone Plus models, and that's fine. They bring in a higher spending audience, which is the whole point of the unified set up. You want each model to bring a different audience to the table that you wouldn't have otherwise. 

"I'm saying the hybrid would be $250 ... for a device that can be used as a console in the house (can output to a TV), but also be played outside of the house." This isn't a hybrid though, it's a handheld that can be hooked up to a TV. Which may be fine with the advancement in tech, but still, I'm really trying to grasp how it is supposed to change the whole gaming world. I mean, this in essence has been done many, many times.

And again, when one encourages the user of the handheld to upgrade being that they can get the next teir at a lower cost (roughly $100 - $150 lower if the controller has a screen) at a later time and the other consists of buying an even more expensive piece of tech to get the same exact games that look a bit better when both can be played on the tv it's clear to see which would bring in the higher profits.

"Here I'll give you something more accurate, the last two Gens both headed by Iwata saw a handheld release before home console. GC was the worst selling yet Iwata still chose to release DS and replace GBA which was selling nearly ps2 levels"

You may not have been aware of this, but Iwata... isn't running things anymore...

I don't get what this has to do with anything, anyway. If the NX ends up being a hybrid system or a handheld that has a method to play games on a TV when at home, then does it matter that handhelds traditionally launch before consoles? The DS only replaced the GBA after it proved it could carry the torch as a viable handheld successor two years into it's life. Plenty of GBA games were releasing until that point. And the whole reason the DS even launched as early as it did was because Nintendo feared the PSP.

I have said before that it doesn't matter to me whether the NX launches this year or not. If I had my druthers, I probably would have it release next year. I have about 30-40 Wii U games still sitting in shrink wrap or downloaded but not yet played alone, on top of Star Fox Zero preordered and money set aside for both Zeldas and Genei Ibun Roku, not to mention the 30-40 3DS games I have yet to play, the 10 or so DS games I have yet to play, and the half-dozen GBA games I have yet to play. I am one of the proudest Wii U owners on this site, brah. If Nintendo didn't announce another new Wii U game between now and the NX launch, I wouldn't be displeased with the amount of content I have played or will eventually play on it.