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SpokenTruth said:
Lawlight said:

Yes, there is discrimination in the workplace - discrimation against white people as companies want to employ minorities for the sake of it.

That's actrually against the law.

Nope. It is the law. Companies are required to meet certain levels of diversity in order to be safe from being out of compliance with EEOC (i.e. it opens themselves up to discrimination claims and suits). While the Civil Rights Act of 1991 dampered the threat of suits, it still happens today and the culture in which companies choose people.



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Groundking said:

Please fuck off, slavery was everywhere, between black people, between arab and black people, between indian and arab people, between indian and black people, between chinese people and indian people, the list goes on and on and on, and who ended slavery? WHITE PEOPLE, this absolutely ridiculous notion that white people have to bend over backwards for african americans and give them everything, despite the fact that it was the white people who abolished the slavery of these people and freed them, and made slavery, for the first time in human history, illegal is ridiculous. All slaves were beaten down and made to feel inferior, if the reason why African Americans are like how they are due to slavery, then why the fuck are vast majorities of the world not like them? We do NOT owe their race anything, we liberated thier race. The cause of why these people are trapped in their shitholes is due to the fact that education sucks, and all the legislation and regulations make it increasingly difficult for the low skilled to get opportunities, couple that with broken families, mass gang warfare, and those with good stable families being so easily sucked into the hell hole gangs it's no wonder they CHOOSE not to give a fuck about no respect, no care for acheivement, and often no hope for getting out of the shit hole's they're from, because everybody in those communities are so down beat and negative they don't see any other way, and when one person does escape, instead of celebrating and being inspired, they become cynical saying it's luck, and then demonising the person who got out. It's ridiculous.

No there is no such thing as 'white privilege' no body has any privilege as nobody deserves anything, people have to work for what they get.

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1)The fact that you're stressing that white people ened slavery, as if its somehow an argument against the existence of White Privilige means you've already completely lost sight of this discussion.

2) The Slavery of mostly blacks to build America's Infrastructure is by far the most recent case of systematic slavery of huge scale, it is also easily the biggest we've ever seen in dated history. You generically state that every race has been enslaved, but refuse to state specifics which is what we would need to have a meaningful conversationabout cause and effect. 

3) The Slavery of the blacks in America then coincided with the industrial revolution and scoeiety we see today. It is very specifically link to the society we live in, not just some random historical fact about people who lived centuries ago. 150 years is absolutely nothing in history terms. The decendants of the same slaves that were denied basic human rights, denied education, threatened with death if they tried to educate themselves, Make up the majority of the African American population TODAY. Please tell me a comparable scenario you currently see in the western world, yer alone one where said society magically recovered over night?

3)Once s
lavery was abolished it then followed up with racial segregation and a system built of treating blacks like lessor citizens, a form of segregation which makes social endemics like povety, lack of education and crime harder to over come. Social mobility is how oppressed people grow out of hardship and when you're living in a society where you're 

1. Mostly seperated from resources due to housing segregation and lack of commerce
2. Discriminated on basis of skin colour

The social mobility is hampered greatly.

"The cause of why these people are trapped in their shitholes is due to the fact that education sucks" 

This is systematic. A Direct result of the history prior to Jim Crowe laws where education facilities were racially segregated with all resources going towards the white ones. 


"couple that with broken families, mass gang warfare, and those with good stable families being so easily sucked into the hell hole gangs"

So you acknowledge the toxity of the enviornment which is good, but you to act like its just some inherent characteristic of black Americans. For someone with strong enough feelings to tell someone else to "fuck off" I imagined you've researched about racial housing segregation and the creation of gangs in the 20th centuary?

Ignoring povety and lack of education (which is again systematic), the endemic of Gang crime in some black communities is a deep topic. Gang crime affected most immigrants (italian, Irish etc) as they moved around in the US. The difference is the blacks lacked the social mobility of the others due to literal racism.

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Black immigrants arrived first, following the U.S. Civil War, to escape the misery of Jim Crow laws and the sharecropper’s life in the southern states).... Most of the immigrant blacks in Chicago settled in the area known as the Black Belt, a geographic area along State Street on the South Side, where abject poverty was concentrated"

“the reason for non-assimilation of Black migrants into American society was not because Blacks were non-urban or unskilled. It owed substantially… to racial segmentation of the labor force structured to keep them at what they had been recruited for, a source of cheap labor”

“the impact of Black street gangs on the Black community was minimal, at best, prior to the 1940s”

" tens of thousands of 1940s and 1950s Black immigrants were crammed into the overcrowded, absentee-landlord housing, youth gangs offered ‘cool worlds’ of street socialization for poor young newcomers from rural Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi”

https://www.nationalgangcenter.gov/content/documents/history-of-street-gangs.pdf



FentonCrackshell said:
I won't get too deep into this debate simply because nothing will change. However, I'll add this. A friend and I once experimented with resumes and put names like "Allen Simpson", Kaitlin Graham, "Jabari Mohammed", and "Lashonda Johnson" on the same resumes. Nothing was changed on the resumes save for the names, addresses, personal info, and contact info. We'd put some of the "whiter" sounding names with addresses from trailer parks and some of the more ethnic sounding names in some of the best communities in our area. We put all the same info on the resumes but put them in random order as to not make it so obvious. Lashonda and Jabari go nearly no calls back even though they'd attended top schools and graduated with honors. In fact, if I remember correctly each received 3 calls back from the over 50 resumes we sent out.

Now, when Allen and Kaitlin were put on the same resumes we were flooded with calls back. Nearly every business called us back and I was fielding calls quickly and so was she. We thought it was funny because we'd not really had anything planned to say when we'd actually gotten the calls back. Eventually we'd come up with the reply that we'd already found work and we no longer need to apply. Some of the businesses even went as far as to ask what we're being paid by our new jobs and would offer to beat it.

Ok, so even though Allen and Kaitlin may not be white and there's no way for a company to know that beforehand you have to think that names like Jabari and Lashonda are not called back for a reason. What's funny is that my friends (and even my wife, who's white and also says white privilege doesn't exist) always joke that I only get calls back from all the jobs I apply for because my name is Sheldon. My rebuttal is that this may be true but I still have to show up black and have a good interview. I do wonder if my mother had named me something more "black" would getting calls back from jobs be harder. Who knows...

This is so funny because while I did not do an experiment I did have a similar situation regarding myself and a friend of mine. My friend actually had more work experience than me but her name is DeCeisha and my name is Frank and we were applying to jobs together. I got numerous call backs while she got only one. It was crazy because at the time my only job at the time was working at K-mart lol. While she had an extensive resume with a very robust work history, so why I got called back over her was confusing to say the least.

As for the topic at hand I don't like the term "white privilege" to be honest but I would never deny that there is an issue in this country with equality through and through. And it is usually with white males(statistic wise), nothing personal about it. That's just what the numbers show.





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Bullshit.

My fiance is white and I'm black. Just the other day, we were playing Peggle 2 on Xbox One. I said "Xbox, on" like three times. No response. She says it ONCE and it turns on and says "Hi, Tracy" before it says "Hi" to me.

White privilege!!!



I do love in an area that's about %50 black and white and I make 3-4 times the median income for my city. That's awesome. Privilege or no, I never let it hold me back from being and doing exactly what I want.

Excuses only satisfy those who make them.



Don't expect people that think printing money is a good strategy to understand anything you wrote.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Anyone seen this? https://privilegegrant.com/ its a scholarship fund for white people only started by Milo Yinnolpiolus. (site is down due to ddosing as one could imagine)

im not educated enough to comment on the matter but the pure balls and troll level of this dude of off the charts i r8 8/8 top kek.



Dulfite said:
I teach in a 98-99% inner city, low income, African american public school. I am white. Here are some thoughts I have on what I see:

There is a TON of disrespect towards each other, themselves, and adults by the students. When someone in the community (often a former drop out or graduate) dies, instead of being sad about it the students most often treat it as some interesting and exciting news. The value for life in this community is drastically lower in comparison to higher income environments.

The kids, for the vast majority of them, do not care about their grades. No matter how many times we, as adults, try to point out the importance of it, no matter how many times we describe how this could be there way out of this way of life, they just don't care. To them, dropping out or failing doesn't matter (we do have students that do care, but most don't).

There are fights all the time and there are legit gangs (based on streets the students live on around the school). We have had weapons, drugs, sexual activity and we've had the cops in the school and around it when these events go on, chasing down the students that are trying to flee.

When I look at this (and this does connect to the white privilege thing) I start to ask why. I have a history background and teach government in this school. Why do I (and let's just be honest here) see black people doing this stuff so often in these types of environments? It doesn't take long to find the answer. You look at the families and realize the truth. In education, it's common for us teachers to say to each other that we are powerless if the home life isn't aligned with us. If the family has fallen to pieces, then we have no shot at helping these kids most often. When I look at the families of the students I work with, so often is there no dad or grandma is in charge because mom is on drugs or dad is in prison, dead, or was too scared to be a baby dady and ran.

So it's easy to just blame the families, but then I have to think why are they the way they are? I have a good friend, from Nigeria, that I was roommates in college with for a couple years. He NEVER acted like this. He contributed to society. He had a whole and wonderful family and now has a wife and a baby on the way and is living the dream, if you will. He was and is extremely respectful, cares about his future, and cares about life. What makes him, and many other Africans I knew, so different in their morals, values, and educational focus than so many African Americans?

Slavery. When Africans were stripped from Africa and forced to become slaves, we beat them down and made them feel inferior. We took them away from their families and split them all up. There entire race has been basically shut into an insane asylum and then, after a LOOOOONG time, were set free. Did we do anything to help them adjust to this freedom? Did we issue national programs to help them reconnect with their families?

Any race, if given what Africans Americans went through, would degenerate similarly. It isn't their fault and many of them are ignorant to why they are what they are in the first place. We are all subject to conditioning. Their conditioning started hundreds of years ago. As a race, white people totally screwed up the mentality of African Americans through slavery. This is the reason why we are "privileged" and why we owe them until their race is restored to the same playing field as any decent African (intelligent, family focused, and concerned with helping themselves and others have good lives).

Jews had it a lot worse and from different nationalities for a lot longer, they had come out fairly well.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."