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Would you mind?

No, in fact I want them to. 71 28.86%
 
I'd be fine with it. 60 24.39%
 
I would. (Explain below). 96 39.02%
 
See results. 19 7.72%
 
Total:246

Yes I would because there wouldn't be any reason left for me to own consoles.



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oniyide said:
where is the proof that we would get only a few games, that makes no sense as they would have more resources, time and money freed up by NOT having to make and market a machine. We would get the games we would get anyway.

OT i wouldnt mind. I have no problem buying more than one console, but if Ninty stops making them i guess i would be buying one.

They would not have more resources because they would lose all the licensing fees from their platforms. Time? Really? The hardware engineers they employ would have more time making software? lol.





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Would I mind? Absolutely, I'd hate it so much that I'd never buy another new video game again. You said that this would just be the home console and handhelds would be a different story, but they are inseperable. If you have Nintendo franchises on opposing consoles, but then still have the Nintendo handheld, the handheld would die even worse than the Wii U has. There would be no incentive to buy one, this is one of the worst ideas I've ever heard, quite honestly.



There are... More problems than you can see...

Lets say that Nintendo suddenly goes third party. Than Nintendo actually gets more leverage on the console market.

For example, lets imagine the scenario where Nintendo suddenly declares that all of their home console title will be third party, and will only release on Xbox One.

This declaration, if it would happen, would rearrange current generation. Xbox One will quickly catch and possibly surpass PS4 because - well. All the Nintendo's current share will move with them, including additional share who wasn't sure Wii U would be a good deal.

Problem is that Nintendo have no reason to support Western console that is selling less and going to ignore them.

If Nintendo sides with Playstation, Already struggling Xbox will probably have to bite the dust.

That would result in single console dominated market without healthy competition.

Well, that is my take.



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TheLegendofDS said:
Yes I would because there is no benefits for us with a 3rd party Nintendo, we would most likely only see Zelda,Mario 2D and 3D,Mario Kart,SSB and Pokémon that's it we could see other franchises back once in a while but if Nintendo was 3rd party this gen., StarFox would not be getting a new game neither would Kid Icarus or Xenoblade,Splatoon probably never be made, FE wouldn't had the chance to make a comeback and crossovers like #FE,Hyrule Warriors and Pokken again wouldn't probably be made

And what makes you think that?

 

Without having to sell systems,Nintendo would have no reason to diversify their games, and would probably just make the games that would make them money.



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bunchanumbers said:
Aeolus451 said:

Hmmm you have a point. That's on nintendo though. They don't really make many new IPs this gen that aren't related to one of their main IPs. Nintendo could just become a bigger publisher than any of the others and work with studios to bring their games to people but still develope their own games. Surely, if nintendo fans spoke out, nintendo would listen especially since they're purely a video game company. 



Yeah, that's why Sega made Phantasy Star 5, or made Bayo 2 and Shenmue 3 happen. Once they go 3rd party its over. Do you really think they care what a vocal minority of gamers want when they are 3rd party? Those vocal minority sales matter to Nintendo now because they also buy consoles, peripherals and other Nintendo games. Once Sega went 3rd party they were done. The exact same thing will happen to Nintendo. Becoming bigger like you say means they need bigger sales to support themselves. They won't get those sales from niche nintendo games.



Sega is kind of a bad example even though it's the only console maker to go 3rd party. They're bad with money. Nintendo on the other hand isn't. If nintendo went 3rd, what games get sequels or what gets released largely depends on the people who buy nintendo's games. Nintendo's loyal fans is it's only market amongst gamers and it's games reflect their tastes. If nintendo fans start to demand things then most likely nintendo will have no choice but to cave in.  At some point, someone has to say "this shit isn't acceptable" or "we want this game". Nintendo has never been in a position that it can just ignore it's fans because they are it's target consumers. 



-----> Nintendo dont seem like a hardware company.

They often dont see the future of hardware, or make gigantic design mistakes when it comes to hardware.
Their OS is lacking behinde competitors too. Then their overall design philosophy with "low power" & "quiet" console doesnt appear to be what the market wants.

Basically I think they would be better off as a pure software company, that just focus's on makeing games.

EIther that or they hire a guy like Mark Cerny to help them design the console, and some software guys to make a OS more like the others's.



Aeolus451 said:
bunchanumbers said:
Aeolus451 said:

Hmmm you have a point. That's on nintendo though. They don't really make many new IPs this gen that aren't related to one of their main IPs. Nintendo could just become a bigger publisher than any of the others and work with studios to bring their games to people but still develope their own games. Surely, if nintendo fans spoke out, nintendo would listen especially since they're purely a video game company. 



Yeah, that's why Sega made Phantasy Star 5, or made Bayo 2 and Shenmue 3 happen. Once they go 3rd party its over. Do you really think they care what a vocal minority of gamers want when they are 3rd party? Those vocal minority sales matter to Nintendo now because they also buy consoles, peripherals and other Nintendo games. Once Sega went 3rd party they were done. The exact same thing will happen to Nintendo. Becoming bigger like you say means they need bigger sales to support themselves. They won't get those sales from niche nintendo games.



Sega is kind of a bad example even though it's the only console maker to go 3rd party. They're bad with money. Nintendo on the other hand isn't. If nintendo went 3rd, what games get sequels or what gets released largely depends on the people who buy nintendo's games. Nintendo's loyal fans is it's only market amongst gamers and it's games reflect their tastes. If nintendo fans start to demand things then most likely nintendo will have no choice but to cave in.  At some point, someone has to say "this shit isn't acceptable" or "we want this game". Nintendo has never been in a position that it can just ignore it's fans because they are it's target consumers. 

 

That is doubtful. If Nintendo is a 3rd party publisher most likely, we'll end up not getting any of their fringe games anymore, because they just aren't gonna sell. You can say that Nintendo has no choice but to cave in, but most likely, like all 3rd party publishers, they'll instead focus on the franchises that do sell. Nintendo still has shareholders to appease after all. Or we'll see a couple of these games that may or may not be good, along with a warning from Nintendo saying that it needs to sell xxx millions if they want a sequel. Or even worse, a mega casual surge of their games on mobile and a complete abandonment of their fanbase.

Not only that their fanbase will most likely abandon them too. I don't know if you know this, but there is a certain pride in the Nintendo fanbase. Most of their fans will treat it as though Nintendo abandoned them. The reward for decades of loyalty is Nintendo telling them that the systems they bought are worthless and to go buy a PlayStation? They won't go after those games on other systems. Its why Wii U has some of the strongest attach rates. I'm hovering around 50 Wii U games. You wanna know how many games from Nintendo I'd buy if I had to get it on PlayStation? Maybe one. Maybe.

Did the 12 million Dreamcast owners buy millions of units of all Sega games on other systems after Sega shut down? No. They all went onto something else and Sega floundered. I should know. I was a diehard Sega fan from Genesis, Saturn, and Dreamcast days.



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oniyide said:
zorg1000 said:

 


How do u know they don't sell to the same demographics? Do we have any type of data that shows there aren't a large number of 3DS owners that also own a PS3/PS4/360/XB1?

Why couldn't those teams also make other big franchises? The team behind Mario Kart is also the team behind Nintendogs which sold over 20 million last generation and despite a massive decline still did close to 4 million this generation. The Animal Crossing team released Wii Sports/Play last generation and created Splatoon this generation. The New Super Mario team created Super Mario Maker this generation. It's not just about software sales but also creating a more diverse library that can bring in new fans.

In ur scenario the teams that make Mario Kart, Smash Bros, etc. would have to release a handheld entry followed by switching over to making entries on PS/XB instead of continuing to support their handheld and diversify the library.

 


or they could just not do handhelds at all.

 


The op said they would stop making consoles but continue making handhelds, I'm explaining why I don't think that is feasible. Either they support their handheld 100% or they go full 3rd party.



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