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Trunkin said:
Am I the only one who's starting to feel that "old white male" is in and of itself becoming a racist/ageist slur? It's like, "Oh, what's that? You're old, white, AND happen to be a man? You MUST therefore be a massive bigot, so your views, and the views of your peers, whatever they may actually be, can be safely dismissed."

Nah totally acceptable.



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Man, I'm black and I love movies. With the exception of Idris Elba in "Beasts of No Nation", there wasn't a lot of performances I felt were superb from black people.

Selma, last year, had a great message but the acting sucked. It was like a TV show. Sans for concussion. I like Will but the guy isn't a great actor. It may be race that determines who gets the best role but dammit, if the best actor isn't a black guy, don't give it to them out of pity. Didn't 12 Years a Slave just win best picture not that long ago?

Oh, and as much as I fucking LOVE the Hateful 8, Samuel L. Jackson was the weakest (though most entertaining) actor in the film. Truth hurts.

 

*edit* Creed was great--but not what I consider Oscar worthy.  It was just a satisfying film.



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I don't think any Rocky film has won an Oscar except the first one. And yes, Creed is still a Rocky film. Anyway, I can't side with the people who are boycotting the show. Maybe Straight Outta Compton did deserve something but how many awards could that movie have gotten? You got Star Wars, but let's be honest here. Who in the hell is going to compete with Harrison Ford? The Hateful Eight has not gotten the same critical reception that other Tarantino movies have gotten. While there were some great movies with black actors, there just haven't been that much. I also find to be total bullshit that the people making these decisions are being biased, especially considering that they are from liberal left-wing Hollywood, where forced diversity has been the standard practice of the film industry over the years.

Finally, with this call for a lack of diversity, how many other actors of other races have made the same complaint? Is the complaint really about the lack of diversity or just the lack of their own race? Would these black actors side with any Asian actor who complains that they aren't being represented?



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tiffac said:
Trunkin said:
Am I the only one who's starting to feel that "old white male" is in and of itself becoming a racist/ageist slur? It's like, "Oh, what's that? You're old, white, AND happen to be a man? You MUST therefore be a massive bigot, so your views, and the views of your peers, whatever they may actually be, can be safely dismissed."

Nah totally acceptable.

lmfao!



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LipeJJ said:
Bandorr said:
LipeJJ said:
So, he's implying that they should nominate people not by their merit, but based on ethnic/cultural diversity?

Or the did I read it wrong?

I wonder the same thing. I can't tell if it is being implied that the "committee" is racist, or if they should be picking people based on things OTHER than their acting skill.

I assumed the first thing, but seeing as how the committee has over 6000 members it seems hard to call them ALL racist.

I'm seriously considering it's a mix of both. 



I think there's some merit to it. The Oscar voters are predominantly white in a country where we white people are also a minority. I've heard somewhere around 70%, compared to somewhere around 44% total population (if I recall the census data correctly). The problem is the scope of this issue. Black actors, generally, have a proportional likelihood to win an Oscar (10% to 12% US population). It's everybody else that's underrepresented. 

 

Overall, though, when you put this in theory, and throw two similar actors (barring their ethnicity) with similar performances onto a vote where 70% of the voters are white, the odds are the white guy wins. If we proportionally diversify the voting group the odds become much more fair to EVERYBODY worthy of an Oscar. 

 

That's just my two cents; I have no vested interest in this, but logically there's an argument to be made. They're just making the wrong one. 



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The bigger issue is I think a general lack of diversity in who Hollywood casts. The Fast & Furious movies and even the new Star Wars shows people are willing to accept more diverse casts, you don't need to cast every lead character as a white person.



I wouldn't be happy with this if I was a black actor. What if I was nominated next year; would it be because I'm good, or because of "racial diversity"?



The problem isn't the Oscars or the selection process The problem is Hollywood casting directors and there not being enough roles for minorities. As for Smith he is smoking something if he thinks that he was snubbed for his role in Concussion he had one the worst forced accents I have ever heard in a Movie, Idris Elba and Abraham Attah should have been nominated but that was due to some rule or an agenda that Hollywood has with it being a Netflix film. Benicio del Toro should have also been nominated for Sicario.



Ok look. For the ones saying this is Will Smith trying to make nominees off of race, that's not the case.

To be honest, there are many amazing actors, all with a huge range of diversity. I don't see why there should be a majority of black, white, asian, or any other race during these types of events.



 

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