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LudicrousSpeed said: A lot of people probably have moved on. Online communities on consoles are very short lived for most games. Calling it a wasteland though is just nonsense and weak bait. The thread is 3 pages long and we are yet to see anything close to something relating to "the state of Xbox". All we see is a massively bundled game on the most popular console has slightly outsold Halo on a much less popular console. |
I would like to see it renamed, "The State of Halo".
The Xbox One is doing fine sales-wise, but Halo being arguably the Biggest Franchise in Xbox History and The Mascot of the Brand, being outsold by a Collection of Ps3 Remastered Games is...not good, like at all.
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There is so much wrong with your posts and its clear this is something you love doing. Maybe your looking at it the wrong way. How about looking at it as Halo 5 is doing pretty well considering the userbase of the console and that its keeping touch with Sonys best ever games they have ever made. The fact that Sony has to throw the game away is a statment to how good Halo really is considering its not a game worth throwing away just yet. Halo is the mascot of Xbox, Halo also increased its veneues by $400m on launch. Its the game gamers buy Xboxs for hence its attach rate is leaps better then NDC. There will be other Halo games to continue to boost the franchise. You cant always sell 10m units.
Stop acting as if Halo is a flop. It has sold over 3.4m units not including digital. The game has already made MS its money back and some.
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according to Naughty Dog, actually you can sell a lot more on each game, never a Crash Bandicoot game, sold less than 7 Millions, and the last 3 games made by Naughty Dog, sold more than 6 Millions, The Last of Us, with the original and the Remaster, sold 10+ Millions, Install Base, have nothing to do with the Franchise, Final Fantasy XIII, sold more than 1.49 Millions first week on japan, for a Install base of over 2.5 Millions.
And we are not saying that Halo, is a Flop, but that Halo, is Microsoft's Biggest franchise and is being beaten by a Remaster, of a Game, that The main entries sold less than Halo, Uncharted 1, sold much less than Halo 3, less than 3 times, and now Uncharted Collection, is Out-selling Halo 5, does not matter if it is bundled or not, Sony, is not forcing anyone to buy the game, even if 100% of Uncharted collection sales were because of the bundle, this is just 1/3 of what Playstation 4, sold from october, to january, so what you have to say about the other Playstation 4 sold ?.
and Uncharted, is not even Sony's biggest franchise, and this game is just a Remaster, and this is why we are arguing here, is because a Remaster from Sony's 3th Biggest franchise is out-selling a Main game of Microsoft's biggest franchise, we are on a "Video Game Sales Tracking Forum", and you did not want to talk about Sales ?, is like Master Chieff Collection, out-selling a Main Pokemon game, and you want to deny that ?, we are not atacking Xbox, we are just saying that the numbers are incredible surprising, a Remaster of Uncharted, out-selling a Main game of Halo, when last gen had much more Xbox 360, on USA, than Playstation 3.
And this is just a Prelude of what is coming next, i Wanna bet that Uncharted 4, will break Halo 5's numbers on first, or second week, and continue to sell well all throught the year.
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Your missing the point. Comparing sales is one thing, but this comparison isnt even the same.
Lets look at it this way. We all know the PS4 is selling like hotcake regardless of the games it has, theres no denying it. Would NDC outsell Halo 5 if it wasnt bundled and if the install base was the same? Thats a fair comparison. Thats like you saying Mario is in decline because Mario 3D World only sold 4m on the WiiU. How stupid does that sound.
Considering NDC Bundle is the cheapest of the lot, are gamers buying it becasue of NDC or the fact its a cheap PS4 purchase. Halo 5 is selling like a good game would. It doesnt have to beat anything to prove its selling well. That goes with all games. I am not sure what is Sonys biggest game to you but Uncharted is the icon of playstation just like Halo is for Xbox and there both selling about the same and one isnt heavly bundles and is also sold on a console with a bad rep and half the install base.
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Sony's biggest franchise is Gran Turismo, the game is a Worldwide sucess, sold nearly the same in all the parts of the world.
The Last of Us, easily jumped for Sony's 2th biggest franchise spot.
and the Install base have nothing to do with the sales of a Franchise, if the franchise is big enought the people will upgrade their systems to play the next game, Mario Kart 8, sold 6.5 Millions and still not out-sold by any other Remaste (just GTAV, but GTA V, out-sold every game).
Halo 5, is the Biggest Halo, game that we have this generation, and is being out-sold by a Remaster.
Uncharted collection is selling well and would be selling atlast half that is now, without Bundle, but Halo, also had a Bundle, and is impossible to calculate from what those 400 Millions of US$ in Revenue, of Halo 5's every product, is impossible to know how much has gone for each.
Acording to VG Chartz, Uncharted Collection, sold more than 600 Thousands on Pal Regions, where bundles have little no effect on Sales, and VG Chartz, did not even track the Digital sales, so this collection would easily make 2+ Millions of units sold without the bundles.
What is funny, is that Uncharted Collection, is out-selling a Main game of Microsoft's biggest franchise on a console that Shooters are the most popular genre, and is out-selling Tomb Raider's xbox one, and xbox 360 version, 3 to 1.
And i dont remember one game that Xbox One, sold better than Playstation 4, this is weird, because Playstation 3, had games that were selling more on Playstation 3, than Xbox 360, even with the 7-9 Millions of units behind.
So, there is no reason, or a why, for the people that are not purchasing Halo 5, on Xbox One.
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