PerturbedKitty said:
Soundwave said:
PerturbedKitty said:
Soundwave said:
I've been pretty consistent in my position that the NX is a unified platform. As such to me it doesn't matter when it launches, when ever the first model launches that's pretty much it. It's the NX-era, everything before basically becomes a legacy platform including the Wii U.
Even if it wasn't a unified platform, I don't believe Nintendo can support two high-end 3D gaming platforms (as the 3DS successor would almost certainly have close to Wii U graphics itself).
In either scenario, that's the effective death knell end for the Wii U.
And sure they could just release the NX console in 2016 too.
All I'm saying is in any scenario the Wii U is effectively a dead platform in any scenario.
It will have another 20-25 releases total in its lifespan (retail) and that's probably it, and of that maybe 6-7 will be really worth playing.
I believe the system is pretty much effectively done, because release dates don't determine shit, it's Nintendo's R&D and even to make the release dates for NX that you yourself propose it means Wii U development largely had to stop a while ago.
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Sigh... and round and round we go I suppose.
This is the bottom line here: a 3ds successor is not a wii u replacent. You can go back pages and pages of people posting and you're the only one who has ever suggested that and it was just recently. You literally just came up with this idea, and i even go out of my way to say in the OP that the 3DS might get replaced, but not the Wii U. Handhelds dont replace consoles.
Plus I already refuted your points when I said no, you're wrong, no, no, you're wrong, and I've yet to see any refutation of those points whatsoever.
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If NX is a unified platform, then yes NX is a replacement for everything, but I'm speaking more from a practical POV ... Nintendo has to support the 3DS successor 110% with their last dying breath if that's what it takes because if that fails then even you cannot be naive enough to not understand what happens next.
So functionally the 3DS successor (which I think IS the NX and many others do also) is the one that has been getting Nintendo's top R&D attention. And likely has been for a while, since you can't just make games in 6-7 months, certainly not Nintendo games. We all know Nintendo games average development times in the 2-3 year range, even 3DS projects and 3DS successor will certainly be far more powerful than a 3DS.
That's where I think yours and Nem's arguement falls apart, you guys are fighting so hard, but really the NX era is already started within Nintendo. The Wii U is not going to get the next 3D Mario or next Splatoon or next Retro game or any of that in all likely hood ... because much of this content has to be on the 3DS successor, which *rightly* so deserves every single bit of attention from Nintendo.
It is the most important product launch arguably in their company history, if they are to have any future in the hardware business that product *must* be a success. Failure is not an option.
People get mad at me for saying this stuff, but you're just barking at the messenger, I didn't create this situation, Nintendo did with a previous 5-6 years of very poor decision making and misreads of the market in virtually every demographic possible.
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I believe it is going to be a unified platform. Bet let's be honest, neither of us know wtf that means or what it truly entails. Regardless, you're still backtracking and basically acknowledging that no new console is coming out this year. Lol. That was the only point I really wanted to make with this thread. When nintendo finally announces what the hell they are doing, people are going to be all confused when they say that no console is coming out this year, and I'll just direct them back to this thread.
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No one knows when its going to release. It could be this fall. It could be next spring. It could be next summer. It could a phased launch. It could be a simulatenous launch. There could be 2 models. There might be 3. There could be 4. Who knows. Honestly Nintendo fans should embrace a new setup, the current one is not doing Nintendo any favors at all, the status quo only serves to help Sony since they're the only ones really doing great in the console business. I'm sure they would love for things to stay exactly like this for another 20 years, Nintendo and MS ... probably not so happy with how things are now.
To be honest to me when NX releases is about the least interesting thing anyway. It's already in development so functionally their R&D is close to 100% focused on it, so from that POV the Wii U/3DS era is effectively over, this is just the "ride out the stretch" phase that every Nintendo console goes through where we get a few final token releases, maybe a Zelda (that may or may not be dual-release) and good bye.
My personal feeling on the launch is Nintendo would *like* to have it out this year in both model types (home/portable). But Nintendo is a company that would be late to their own funeral, so I never discount the likihood of a delay. That doesn't however magically mean the Wii U somehow gets all these other games as a result, the R&D is already set for the NX.
I'm much, much, much more interested in what the concept behind the platform is, because if they don't get that right then it doesn't matter when they release it.
