ok i see.  regardless, even if home version of NX comes out this yr, technically speaking, Wii U is not being replaced (i.e NX = "3rd pillar" company speak) not to mention will get (some) support for a couple more yrs, so not really much different than what's going on now.  Wii U needs to be replaced because its hurting Ninty's brand and the longer they stay with it, they lose credibility.  Wii U is a dud and needs to be dropped asap.   Zelda U is the only reason this sucker is kept alive, with Ninty being gracious to their current install base.

Let's not kid ourselves lol. If nintendo releases a console, it's replacing the old one. So that first point you made doesn't even need to be considered. 

Your second point about how the wii u just needs to be replaced asap is just a short term view. We have already went over that point extensively in this thread, but I'll reiterate that for Nintendo to have this view is turning it's back on its consumers. Sega had the same exact philosophy with the sega saturn. Nintendo needs to ride this wave that the created with the Wii u, show consumers that they can have faith in their products, and try better next time. 

That point was more than relevent, as history as proven (GBA to DS "3rd pillar").  Doesn't matter if certain nerds know the goings on, there will always be company speak and not every one is in tune like that.

& i'm sure a lot has been said, but the problem (or why this thread is so long) is certain people not acknowling facts , while making false comparisons.  For example, if Sega went from Genesis straight to Saturn, they would not have lost consumer's confidence. want to talk shortsighted, hi sega CD AND 32x! lol.  But Wii U directly to NX (home) is more akin to OG XBOX to 360 (4 yrs).  I'm sure those things have been said, but some don't want to acknowledge valid points.

Also, Nintendo's problem is not to satisfy who they currently have, but the drastic install base they've lost.  Do you attack a disease as (reasonably) early as possible, or let it linger, making ____ more sick, and potentially fatal? ---- the Wii U, its a product no one wants, on the niche level of Vita and you don't stick with it to satisfy brokeboys who can't afford to move on.  Let this be a lesson to Ninty - no matter the great games (Wii U is loaded with IMO), if you make stupid ass HW decisions, coupled with bad marketing  you may not get the desired results.

Jeezus Kitty, chill out. 

You're acting a bit like a kid who's being told the family pet is about to be put down anytime someone suggests the Wii U might be nearing its end. 

To me Wii U is just a piece of plastic (not even a particularily impressive piece of plastic given the era it exists in) that plays Nintendo games for a very unremarkable period in Nintendo's history.

That's it. I'm a Nintendo fan and have been for a looooooong time (probably longer than some people here have been alive period). No individual console is bigger than Nintendo as a company, consoles they come and they go, and once they go not much thought is given to them. The next thing (NX) will come around and it will probably be a lot better than what the Wii U was and people will largely forget about this stretch of time. That's how things go and that's why I have no particular attachement to any specific Nintendo machine.

To me it doesn't even matter if NX is a portable (or more) or whatever ... it's a "console" because it will require Nintendo's lead resources and will have high end 3D graphics (anything beyond PS2 level requires large dev teams and large dev cycles). To even make a 2016 launch they will have to have been working on software since 2014. It is their primary focus now as it should be, Wii U/3DS era as it pertains to Nintendo's R&D is largely over. 

Wii U has maybe 20-25 more retail titles waiting to come out total in its lifespan (1st, 2nd, and 3rd party) a big chunk of that being the usual LEGO and annual Just Dance games. The PS3 and 360 probably have more software left to release than the Wii U does. NX probably already has 50-100 titles in development (Nintendo probably has 20+ in some stage of development themselves, Namco apparently has several, Square-Enix likely does too) and will get more as every month that passes. 

LOOOOOOOL!!

I see, now you're shifting goal posts just in case.

If nintendo releases a handheld this year and NOT a console, then you were wrong, end of story. A handheld is not a console replacement lol. 

Ok, thank you for the preview of what kind of backtracking we should expect to see in the coming months. 

Well, they did share a thing or two concerning how Nintendo were thinking about games at the time. Almost all entries to anything were full 3D, and tried to push the boundaries of interaction with 3D worlds.

By the time the Wii came out, Nintendo had realized that the more casual player and many children, who all used to be part of their audience, had been left behind by this approach, as games had come to seem very complex and time consuming.

Another one talking about one hardware as if it was two. As far as we know, NX will either be a handheld or a home console.

Your whole POINT is that the Wii U has tons of support left ahead of it is it not? 

If Nintendo has to focus on a new system, that means Wii U is kaput. I've said that for several months here now. 

Wii U has maybe 20-25 retail releases left in its life cycle, half of which is stuff like LEGO and Just Dance games. 

Also you guys need to understand that just because a system is "released" doesn't mean support for said system just magically starts then. If NX handheld is launching in 2016 and NX console in 2017 like you are "hoping" for ... then honestly I have to ask if you really even know what the fuck you're hoping for in the first place. 

That means Wii U development is pretty much finished and has been going back at least to late 2014/early 2015 for Nintendo to be able to launch portable NX in time for this holiday and a console soon after. We know Nintendo takes 2-3 years to make a game on average. 

You want to push this agenda that the Wii U is this vibrant console with tons of support ahead of it, when even by your own math, it's fairly certain Nintendo's internal R&D is pretty much finished with both the 3DS and Wii U. 

the wii u isnt going to get replaced this year, and no amount of spin is going to change that, soundwave. youll get laughed off the forums if you try to go down the path of saying that a handheld can replace a console. and for what? just so you can say you were right in the, "wii u is not getting replaced this year, guys" thread? lol. 

If NX is a unified platform, then it launches when ever any iteration of hardware that has its game launches. 

The 3DS didn't have two-three different launch dates because it has 2-3 different models, all the models play (mostly) the same games they are one platform. 

I would say NX is the same thing, if NX is a unified platform it replaces both 3DS and Wii U, so when ever the first model launches is effectively the beginning of the NX-era and the end of whatever came before. 

And if you're expecting 2014 type support for Wii U going past this year ... lol, good luck with that. 2014 is probably like one of the Wii U's peak years. The games Nintendo releases this year for Wii U are basically its swan song, it's not going to have another "2014 type year" after that. 

I said NX development had to start IN 2014 in order for it to make even a 2016 launch in any kind of form factor.