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DivinePaladin on 16 January 2016
PerturbedKitty said:
DivinePaladin said:
They're keeping the Wii U at profit because why wouldn't they? It's not going to magically sell any better if it's $250 or if they take a big loss at $200. The GameCube barely sold at $50 for God's sake. With shelf space for the console withering too, it's better to keep it high from a business standpoint even if they'd prefer to let the software make their money like usual. Either way this is a company with a new president that just barely made it out of its first big slump in over a century; they're gonna play it safe with their dying console.

Whether they release the NX home device this year doesn't hinge on the fact that the Wii U still costs a lot, and vice versa. As somebody who seems to be a Nintendo fan, you should know as well as everybody else that you can't use traditional logic with them sometimes.

And I'm sure somebody else will go with some snarky response such as "no Nintendo console was over $300 before either," so be prepared for that. Just keep in mind I'm playing my Wii U right now while typing this, so this is coming from a place of love.

so do you think that it is being replaced this year? you dont seem to indicate one way or another. i dont necessarily disagree with anything that you said, but i dont see how any of that means the wii u is being replaced this year.

 

And I don't see how the logic you present states anything otherwise. That's my point here. My opinion doesn't matter here, because I'm about 60/40 on it at this point; I chimed in to point out that your entire basis for argument is rooted entirely in irrelevance. 

 

Personally, I'm leaning 2016 for some form of NX. Even if we only get the handheld part, that's going to replace the Wii U this year based purely on the dual-system ideology they're going for now. Zelda U will be the last game the console gets from Nintendo, no doubt about it. They'll try not to kill Zelda U hype by releasing the NX handheld instead of directly competing, and then port it a few months down the line to fit right with the home device launch. Zelda U is the only reason I'm not 100% sure of the NX console's launch, because they seem firm on the claim that its only coming to Wii U (at least at first), and they're not gonna shoot the game in the foot if they can help it. 

 

Either way, the argument of when is mostly irrelevant since it'll either be in ten months or thirteen; if the Wii U had more than a year left I doubt they'd be ending support for their biggest hit on the console after nine months, and I doubt we'd be seeing Smash support ending so soon either unless Nintendo had plans for an NX port/sequel of sorts. With the content we're getting this year being ENTIRELY "hold off until Zelda!" content, it shows that Nintendo is pulling the plug ASAP for the Wii U; and the fairly dismal content for the 3DS thus far shows that they're not simply focusing on one platform over another like they've mostly done in the past. They've cut the content output for both and trickled out what little they have left to hold us over until the NX. Whichever form it comes in first, like I said, is pretty much irrelevant if the NX is anything like it's been described.



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Miyamotoo on 16 January 2016
bigtakilla said:
Miyamotoo said:
bigtakilla said:
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Hinted NUMEROUS times!? Pls tell wrote some of those things, I cant recall one single hint that NX isnt coming this year.

 

"development was progressing steadily and that Nintendo didn’t want to rush the console to market.”, " We’ve also said publicly that we are already hard at work on our next home console and that’s another element we’ll be talking about much later." 

Both of these seem to hint that they are in no rush to release the NX this year.

That "rush" inst true in translation, this is original: "development is steadily progressing."

"that’s another element we’ll be talking about much later." Pls give me link that he said much later.

Even those sentence are true (but they are not), they hinting NX will not but rushed product, but that doesnt mean NX will not be launched this year. Again, Nintendo said nothing that imply that NX want be launched this year, only thing they said that we will have infos about NX this year and that they didnt want to talk about NX before beacuse they afraid competion could still their idea, to me that sound like not huge gap between revile and launch like before.

Also, what @SoundWave wrote, Kimishima NX is mentioned specifically, whereas 3DS and Wii U are not mentioned at all. Why he wouldn't mentioned at all 3DS/WiiU and mention NX in plans for 2016. if they relly dont want to release NX in 2016!?

 

In here

http://nintendoeverything.com/reggie-indicates-that-nx-is-a-home-console/

You realise that was said 7 months ago!? So basically talking about NX in near future would be much later date.





Soundwave on 16 January 2016
PerturbedKitty said:
Soundwave said:
bigtakilla said:
Soundwave said:

 

That quote was mistranslated. 

Basically all was said is that "development was progressing steadily". Nothing about rushing it. 

Also note in Kimishima's address to shareholders at the beginning of this year, NX is mentioned specifically, whereas 3DS and Wii U are not mentioned at all. Gee, kinda curious to not mention your two key 2016 products ... unless ... they actually aren't your key products. 

And if NX is not a 2016 product, why specifically mention it in a 2016 New Year address to shareholders? 

Link to the shareholders address?

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/management/message.html

Direct from Nintendo's own website. 

maybe nintendo didnt mention wii u because it isnt selling well. reading this, i feel like its just a bunch of bs that nintendo is sending to make them feel good and hopeful.

No mention of the 3DS either. C'mon. If these are to be the pillars of their business at least through 2016, I would have to think they're worth a mention, yet only NX gets a shout out. 





bigtakilla on 16 January 2016
Miyamotoo said:
bigtakilla said:

 

In here

http://nintendoeverything.com/reggie-indicates-that-nx-is-a-home-console/

You realise that was said 7 months ago!? So basically talking about NX in near future would be much later date.

Still, what as of now has been said? Nothing.





PerturbedKitty on 16 January 2016
Soundwave said:
PerturbedKitty said:

at bolded: how do you know this? i havent heard anything about that.

 

From way back in late 2014 when Nintendo and Sharp initially signed their deal together:

http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/16/7406585/nintendo-said-to-use-sharp-free-form-displays

"Kyodo's report says that mass production of the Free-Form Display is set to begin early 2016."

huh, that certainly is an interesting piece of information. thank you for sharing that with me. couldnt this be for a handheld though? how do we know that a controller for a home console is being produced specifically?





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PerturbedKitty on 16 January 2016
Soundwave said:
PerturbedKitty said:

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Direct from Nintendo's own website. 

maybe nintendo didnt mention wii u because it isnt selling well. reading this, i feel like its just a bunch of bs that nintendo is sending to make them feel good and hopeful.

No mention of the 3DS either. C'mon. If these are to be the pillars of their business at least through 2016, I would have to think they're worth a mention, yet only NX gets a shout out. 

3DS sales are waning, and that system is about to be 5 years old. i can see why they wouldnt mention those pieces of hardware. nx and amiibo are actually things to invest in, not wii u and 3ds. nx is their future.





bigtakilla on 16 January 2016
Soundwave said:
bigtakilla said:

 

"development was progressing steadily and that Nintendo didn’t want to rush the console to market.”, " We’ve also said publicly that we are already hard at work on our next home console and that’s another element we’ll be talking about much later." 

Both of these seem to hint that they are in no rush to release the NX this year.

 

That quote was mistranslated. 

Basically all was said is that "development was progressing steadily". Nothing about rushing it. 

Also note in Kimishima's address to shareholders at the beginning of this year, NX is mentioned specifically, whereas 3DS and Wii U are not mentioned at all. Gee, kinda curious to not mention your two key 2016 products ... unless ... they actually aren't your key products. 

And if NX is not a 2016 product, why specifically mention it in a 2016 New Year address to shareholders? 

 

Because NX (as well as cell phone games) are going to be implemented this year. They didn't mention Zelda U either, delay confirmed? Lol. This will pretty much be the highlights for shareholders this year, NX and cel phone apps and software reveals. 



bigtakilla on 16 January 2016
PerturbedKitty said:
Soundwave said:

From way back in late 2014 when Nintendo and Sharp initially signed their deal together:

http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/16/7406585/nintendo-said-to-use-sharp-free-form-displays

"Kyodo's report says that mass production of the Free-Form Display is set to begin early 2016."

huh, that certainly is an interesting piece of information. thank you for sharing that with me. couldnt this be for a handheld though? how do we know that a controller for a home console is being produced specifically?

 

Not to mention wasn't there forcast of how many of these devices could be made drastically reduced for this year, from 20m to 10m if not less. Trying to find the link.



Miyamotoo on 16 January 2016
bigtakilla said:
Miyamotoo said:

You realise that was said 7 months ago!? So basically talking about NX in near future would be much later date.

Still, what as of now has been said? Nothing.

Why they need to said anything yet, they said they will talk about it in 2016. that doesnt mean at start of year. Do you know how X1 and PS4 were revile and launched, I am pretty sure Nintendo will do something similar with NX this year.



Soundwave on 16 January 2016

Culminative signs that NX is launching somewhat soon, beyond the obvious drying up of Wii U and 3DS software announcements ...

- Iwata says in 2014 that a new hardware concept is already in the works and will take "about two years to realize"
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=818167

- Miyamoto says next Mario will take on a new role for the next system ... a year ago (kinda early dontcha think?)
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Nintendo-Already-Planning-Their-Next-Console-69042.html

- Nintendo signs a deal with Sharp for free-form LCDs in 2014 ... which will be ready for production in early 2016 ... kinda convienant for a 2016 product dontcha think?
http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/16/7406585/nintendo-said-to-use-sharp-free-form-displays

- Wait a sec, maybe those free form LCDs are for Quality of Life ... except this patent leak shows it's for a game controller or portable:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1154552

- Third parties get NX development kits in fall 2015
http://nintendoeverything.com/report-nx-dev-kits-going-out-multiple-devices-has-industry-leading-chips/

- Square-Enix sorta announces Dragon Quest XI (and X) for the NX ... kinda early to be announcing games for a system that's supposed to be 2 1/2 years off? Who the hell was announcing PS4 games 2 1/2 years before its launch?
http://www.polygon.com/2015/7/28/9057139/dragon-quest-10-11-nintendo-nx-ps4-3ds

- Nintendo president Kimishima issues a year end/year start "state of the union" to shareholders. Mentions NX, but zero mention of Wii U or 3DS. https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/management/message.html



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