Wii U only already equals availability on Wii U's successor, even more if it releases at the same day of the new console. Maybe it could sell a little more with another version, but not enough to offset the extra costs of porting.

HVC.

Not same thing, Zelda Wii U will not push NX at launch, but made Zelda U NX game at launch and NX will definitely will be pushed. People will say, "look brand new Zelda game for new console" that will have much biger impact on launch and sales of game than "I can play this Wii U game on NX".

Also we already saw this gen how Nintendo promote big games months after launch, do you really think Nintendo would promote Wii U game on release, or maybe relase some sort of DLC months after launch when Wii U already will very dead and whole focus will be on new platform!? Do you really think that for 3 years for now Wii U version of game would sell better, or NX version of game would sell better!? What if Nintendo in some point decide to bundle Zelda U, do you think they will bundle Wii U game with NX!?

Porting of game would cost few milon's, Nintendo would cover the cost basically with around 100k copies more sold with NX port, but reality is that making Zelda U NX launch title would sold few millions more copies than love just Wii U version.

Basically you don't have one single reason why Nintendo won't make NX launch game and so many logical reasons why they will do that. This is all over TP situation but from some reason you want to see that.

Also you are convinced that X will have BC, but I am not sure at all about that, because Nintendo several times said they will go away from WiiU/3DS with NX.

I said Nintendo is a gen behind IN TECH, meaning power.  No debate there.

As for the PS4 and X1, they are a step up in power.  True current gen only releases could not be handled on the PS3 or 360 in terms of AI, physics, frame rate, and all visual effects.  Of course it will be up to the devs to actually utilize the power boost given, but it IS there.  Furthermore the new features of the PS4 such as remote play, share play, games streaming (can also be done on PS3 but bear with me), and live streaming are just as next gen as any utilization of the gamepad from the WiiU.  Because lets be honest, if they wanted to they could have made that controller for the Wii and skiped out on the power upgrade.

That is why I say the WiiU is a gen behind based on a tech level, and one of the reasons it does not appeal to the masses.

For the record, my WiiU sucks comment is a joke reply.  I am just sour that I don't have Zelda U yet.  =P

But it won't be a brand new Zelda for a new console if it's ported, it will still be a brand new Zelda for an old console. Whatever you want to believe, I'm tired. Oh, nintendo said wii u's successor would absorb wii u's architeture somehow.

It will be brand new Zelda because it will be launched in same time on NX and Wii U, it will be brand new console Zelda on NX and WiiU, fact that technically is a Wii U game doesn't change anything, and practically will be more NX game than Wii U because it will have much longer life and sales on NX than on Wii U, same like Wii TP Zelda.

They said that, but we dont know in what way. Also you claiming that Wii U games will be playable with NX controller but reality is that you needed GC controller in order to play GC games on Wii and you need Wii controllers in order to play Wii games on Wii U.

It's a Wii U game.

Maybe you didn't notice, but the wii mote + nunchuck lack several buttons from a standard controller, relying on motion controls to cover some imputs. Of course the wii controls can't be used for gc games, and since nintendo used a standard controller on wii u (the gamepad), It lacked the ability to use motion controls in the same way as wiimote and nunchuck. Now, even if the next controller doesn't have a screen (although it probably will), it just needs the buttons and basic gyro to be compatible with any wii u game that doesn't require the screen (seems to be the case for Zelda U).

Now, do you really think the next controller will remove buttons from the standard, like the wiimote and nunchuck?

bolded: lol ok. 

but anyway, back to arguing. you mention "current gen only" releases that cant be done on ps3 or 360. but i have to ask.. like what? any game that is only on ps4 can be done on ps3 at a lower framerate. games like MGSV prove that. off the top of my head, that is the most ambitious game i can think of that came out last year, and even that was accomplished on the PS3. the only substantial difference between the two versions is that the PS3's framerate is shit. 

dont get me wrong, the PS4 is a next gen console. those features that you listed for PS4 are characteristics of generation 8 hardware. all i was saying is that in certain ways, i can certainly see the PS4 as a console that is stuck in the 7th generation. and i would only bring something like that up when people make some kind of nonsensical argument about the Wii U being mid gen, or a 7th gen console, because its just ridiculous.

Technically, it is release on NX in same time like on Wii U, practically becomes NX games too.

So why for instance I cant use Wii U gamepad for Wii games that can be played whitout motion controls!?

I really don't know what to think what exactly NX controller could be. But my point stands, you need Wii controllers for every Wii game on Wii U, even for those that can be played without motion controls.

But like already wrote before, type of controllers are not important in matter of will Nintendo port Zelda U for NX. I have so many reasons why Nintendo will do that and make it like NX launch title, and you didn't have one single reason why they will not do that.

It would not be just a lower frame rate for games like The Witcher, Bloodborne  (use Dark Souls 2 as comparison), Dying Light (7th gen was cut due to them not being able to run the game without MAJOR sacrifices), Driveclub (the visual fidelity of this game could not be sustained at any framerate on last gen), Horizon Zero Dawn (if this game looks like what what have seen and is open world to boot...yeah not happening on PS3), Uncharted 4 (same as Horizon) just to name a few.

The problem with your logic is that it does not take into consideration processing for AI, various visual affects and artifacts outside of resolution, processing for physics, draw distance, etc.  The difference us pretty big and your argument is making it out like 7 fps is playable and acceptable.  Fact is they would have to dumb down a lot more than just frame rate and resolution which at that point, while looking similar in the outside) would result in a totally different game.

Here is an example, Final Fantasy 14 is available on PS3.  Most of the game is playable, but the endgame content with big raids and multiple players fighting at once IS NOT.  I have lost out on Boss fights in that version because so many peoplr were attacking at once that not only did half of them not show on my screen, half of the enemies and THE BOSS ITSELF wouldn't show either.  When I upgraded to the PS4 version, everything was flawless.  None of the problems from the PS3 followed and it looked sharper to boot.  It literally went from unplayable to working perfectly.  THAT is the difference between last gen and current gen.

The WiiU is only slightly more powerful than the PS3 or 360, no where near the PS4 or X1.  Games that are designed for PS4 and X1 could not be done on the WiiU without major drawbacks, not just framerate.  However ANY game on WiiU could work on the other two minus the game pad (unless you have a Vita and you use the second screen function, which can also be done with a smart phone).  This is why people classify the WiiU as a gen behind in tech.

I get it, you like your WiiU.  It is a good console FOR WHAT IT IS.  Don't let that blind you to the facts though.  The cross gen releases speak nothing of the difference between 7th and 8th gen.  The only thing it shows is how much devs are holding back just to squeeze a few more sales out of last gen (same thing will happen with the next gen I am sure).  That is one thing I can say Nintendo does right though.  When they do move up a gen, they do it fully and focus on what their next console will offer without worrying about the previous for the most part minus a few games like Twilight Princess for example.  They actually move forward with what they have.  This however does not change the fact that the PS4 and X1 offer more behind the scenes than just framerate and resolution.