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Well, I agree with you in some way. The wii u is not getting replaced this year because the NX is not a replacement for it, it's just a third pillar :P
You know what, you may be right, but I would be really happy if the NX home is in the end released this year. I like my wii u, it's my only console this generation but I feel like I've had enough of it, if some of the patents are really going to be in the NX then I'll gladly welcome it.
Also, I need my new Mario and Zelda, Pikmin and Animal Crossing.



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Miyamotoo said:
Thunderbird77 said:

They could do that if they were stupid, bundling a GC controller with a GC game just for the people buying it to play on wii, when it was cheap to make a port. motion plus is a small acessory, far cheaper than a controller and thus easier to bundle.

Again, reasons they don't have to port Zelda U to wii u's successor (we don't know if it is NX) is because anyone can just buy the game and play it on Wii U's successor. No extra controller, just put the game on the system and play it. Enough of this talk.



Like I wrote at first, TP porting on Wii and very likely possible Zelda U porting on NX doesn't have anything with controls, its all about strong launch title and much better sales for game.

Again, we don't know if NX will have BC at all, and if will have BC we don't know if it will need Wii U controller in order to play it. Point is If you make Zelda U NX game too and launch it with NX, use it to promote NX and reverse use NX to promote game, you will definitely have much stronger sales of game than if it's Wii U exclusive. No to mentione being NX launch title very help launch. Its common business sense, basically you have only positive staffs making Zelda U port like NX launch title, you dont have any negative staffs.

It was because of controls. Porting a game doesn't change it's base. Zelda U is a Wii U game. If nintendo wants the game to push wii u's successor hardware, they can just market the game a lot + making sure people know it's compatible with both systems. In the end, while it is possible, nintendo has no reason to port it.





Wyrdness said:
Thunderbird77 said:

Motion plus retailed for like $20 whn it launched. It costed a lot less  than any full controller.



 

It cost more then a GC controller would have at the time of TPs launch and again controllers are sold with huge mark up, developing a WMP would easily cost more then developing a GC controller.

No, it would not. And it wasn't even bundled with every SS but was a a wii add on. Bundling a GC controller with a GC game would be redundant, while just a partial bundle wouldn't let all wii owners buy it.





Soundwave said:

I think Nintendo not dropping the Wii U price is another tell tale sign they've given up on the platform.

If they're serious about this being something they're going to back for another two years basically, they'd be trying a lot harder to increase the userbase in a meaningful manner.

Instead it seems they are content just selling the same low 3 mill/year Wii Us each year and aren't willing to cut the price because they would incur unnecessary losses. They don't believe in this platform at all.

They've given up on this system. If they were really behind it they would be aggressive in cutting the price like the 3DS or how Microsoft is fighting tooth and nail for the XBox One. Nintendo? Doesn't give two craps about the Wii U, they were willing to fight for the 3DS, but with Wii U once the casuals didn't show up, Nintendo knew they were fucked for the generation. 

They are just riding this thing out now, they know they're only going to sell a paltry 14-17 million and they've known this for a while, they're not willing to cut the price other than some "flash drops" for a couple of weeks over the holidays but that's it. They view it as a failed platform and are just hoping to recoup the maximum amount of money from the core Nintendo faithful willing to buy it. That's why it's stuck at $300. 

 

This as well, not dropping the price when in this situation indicates they're just getting as much profit out of it as possible before it's replaced, they had chances to drop the price when MK, Smash and even Splatoon arrived. This further indicates that NX was already on their minds as far back as then.



Soundwave said:

I think Nintendo not dropping the Wii U price is another tell tale sign they've given up on the platform.

If they're serious about this being something they're going to back for another two years basically, they'd be trying a lot harder to increase the userbase in a meaningful manner.

Instead it seems they are content just selling the same low 3 mill/year Wii Us each year and aren't willing to cut the price because they would incur unnecessary losses. They don't believe in this platform at all.

They've given up on this system. If they were really behind it they would be aggressive in cutting the price like the 3DS or how Microsoft is fighting tooth and nail for the XBox One. Nintendo? Doesn't give two craps about the Wii U, they were willing to fight for the 3DS, but with Wii U once the casuals didn't show up, Nintendo knew they were fucked for the generation. 

They are just riding this thing out now, they know they're only going to sell a paltry 14-17 million and they've known this for a while, they're not willing to cut the price other than some "flash drops" for a couple of weeks over the holidays but that's it. They view it as a failed platform and are just hoping to recoup the maximum amount of money from the core Nintendo faithful willing to buy it. That's why it's stuck at $300. 

Not cutting the price just means they think it wouldn't increase hardware numbers enough to justify the cut. Wii U may or may not get replaced this year, but it's lack of a pricecut has nothing to do with "nintendo giving up on it".





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Thunderbird77 said:

No, it would not. And it wasn't even bundled with every SS but was a a wii add on. Bundling a GC controller with a GC game would be redundant, while just a partial bundle wouldn't let all wii owners buy it.



 


Yes it would controllers are made for peanuts and have been since the 90s, even if it's not sold with every copy a significant amount of copies would have been sold with it. The were Wii games bundled with Wiimotes, bundling a GC game with a GC controller is nothing odd.



Wyrdness said:
Soundwave said:

I think Nintendo not dropping the Wii U price is another tell tale sign they've given up on the platform.

If they're serious about this being something they're going to back for another two years basically, they'd be trying a lot harder to increase the userbase in a meaningful manner.

Instead it seems they are content just selling the same low 3 mill/year Wii Us each year and aren't willing to cut the price because they would incur unnecessary losses. They don't believe in this platform at all.

They've given up on this system. If they were really behind it they would be aggressive in cutting the price like the 3DS or how Microsoft is fighting tooth and nail for the XBox One. Nintendo? Doesn't give two craps about the Wii U, they were willing to fight for the 3DS, but with Wii U once the casuals didn't show up, Nintendo knew they were fucked for the generation. 

They are just riding this thing out now, they know they're only going to sell a paltry 14-17 million and they've known this for a while, they're not willing to cut the price other than some "flash drops" for a couple of weeks over the holidays but that's it. They view it as a failed platform and are just hoping to recoup the maximum amount of money from the core Nintendo faithful willing to buy it. That's why it's stuck at $300. 

 

This as well, not dropping the price when in this situation indicates they're just getting as much profit out of it as possible before it's replaced, they had chances to drop the price when MK, Smash and even Splatoon arrived. This further indicates that NX was already on their minds as far back as then.

It indicates they will cut the price when it can remain very profitable even after the cut.





Thunderbird77 said:
Soundwave said:

I think Nintendo not dropping the Wii U price is another tell tale sign they've given up on the platform.

If they're serious about this being something they're going to back for another two years basically, they'd be trying a lot harder to increase the userbase in a meaningful manner.

Instead it seems they are content just selling the same low 3 mill/year Wii Us each year and aren't willing to cut the price because they would incur unnecessary losses. They don't believe in this platform at all.

They've given up on this system. If they were really behind it they would be aggressive in cutting the price like the 3DS or how Microsoft is fighting tooth and nail for the XBox One. Nintendo? Doesn't give two craps about the Wii U, they were willing to fight for the 3DS, but with Wii U once the casuals didn't show up, Nintendo knew they were fucked for the generation. 

They are just riding this thing out now, they know they're only going to sell a paltry 14-17 million and they've known this for a while, they're not willing to cut the price other than some "flash drops" for a couple of weeks over the holidays but that's it. They view it as a failed platform and are just hoping to recoup the maximum amount of money from the core Nintendo faithful willing to buy it. That's why it's stuck at $300. 

Not cutting the price just means they think it wouldn't increase hardware numbers enough to justify the cut. Wii U may or may not get replaced this year, but it's lack of a pricecut has nothing to do with "nintendo giving up on it".



I think these are two seperate issues. Whether NX comes out this year or not, doesn't mean Nintendo hasn't given up on the Wii U. They have. 

If you want to see them fight for a system look at how hard they fought for the 3DS. 

Compare that to the Wii U. They know it's a failed system so they're basically just letting it kill itself. They're not going to help it by throwing a life preserver (a price cut), they're just gonna let the thing drown. 

Game development on the 3DS successor at the very least probably started in 2014, it would have to in order to make a 2016/17 launch, that's more than likely what they have focused on primarily. 

If NX/3DS successor are not ready for this year that's more of a product of Nintendo always being late for everything, not so much that they're working on all these big Wii U games. 



Thunderbird77 said:

It indicates they will cut the price when it can remain very profitable even after the cut.



 


Except they happily cut the price of the 3DS when problems arose, ask yourself this what other Nintendo platform 4 years in didn't recieve a price cut keeping in mind on average a gen has been 5 years? GC was less then half the price of the U and received one, fact is they accepted the U was a lost cause back when Iwata in February 2014 first hinted at the NX, the GC was at least neck and neck with the Xbox but U will never be in that position and was left behind fast.

The lack of a price cut is just them recouping as much back from each sale before the next platform.



Wyrdness said:
Thunderbird77 said:

No, it would not. And it wasn't even bundled with every SS but was a a wii add on. Bundling a GC controller with a GC game would be redundant, while just a partial bundle wouldn't let all wii owners buy it.



 


Yes it would controllers are made for peanuts and have been since the 90s, even if it's not sold with every copy a significant amount of copies would have been sold with it. The were Wii games bundled with Wiimotes, bundling a GC game with a GC controller is nothing odd.

If controllers are made for peanuts, an add on for for a controller must cost even less. Good that you finaly agreed. Don't forget that MP was also required to play SS.

Wii games bundled with wiimotes were very multiplayer intensive. Bundling a GC controller for a single player GC game, just so buyers of another console can play it, that's a waste.