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Thunderbird77 said:
Wyrdness said:

 


Except Nintendo are not against packing things with games, they did it with SS and have bundles in games like Smash for example plus have GC controller bundles the were 22m or so GCs sold by the time Wii U launched so a number of people already had them plus they weren't hard to get a hold of, the only button that the Wiimote and Nunchuck couldn't replicate was the C-stick for camera control. 3 years is not long enough for a game like Zelda to be out of print.

The were 3 main reasons for the port, one was to push sales of the new platform, 2 so it can be marketed as a game for the new platform thus reduce confusion for new consumers as well as point them more to the new platform and finally 3 was to give the game as big a potential consumer base as possible especially being the biggest most expensive game at the time for the company. These 3 reasons are why it's likely Zelda U will have an NX version, a controller is a null and void issue for Nintendo if BC is present because they've shown they'll bundle and controllers in general are actually dirt cheap for companies to produce.

The first 2 reasons are also the main reasons behind TP being delayed on GC to begin with because they needed the game to be newly release for maximum impact, the game's draw would have been reduced had it launched a year earlier on GC as planned. It's all a strategy even if the Wiimote was a standard controller the Wii would have still got a port of TP.

Bundling the wii with gamecube controllers would be needlessly expensive. Bundling a gamecube game with a gamecube controller would have been redundant. There's no comparing to limited edition bundles nintendo does every now and then.

The port was necessary due to incompatibility with wii controllers, and was made possible because it was essentially the same hardware. Now we'll probably have a different architeture and no controller issues.

 

TP port wasn't necessary at all, Nintendo just could leave it only GC version and force people to buy GC controller in order to play game on Wii, but they wanted strong launch title for Wii that will go very well with Wii Sports and they wanted to sell few millions copies of game on Wii too, those are resons why they ported game on Wii, and from those same reasons they will port Zelda U on NX and make it launch title.



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Miyamotoo said:
Thunderbird77 said:

Bundling the wii with gamecube controllers would be needlessly expensive. Bundling a gamecube game with a gamecube controller would have been redundant. There's no comparing to limited edition bundles nintendo does every now and then.

The port was necessary due to incompatibility with wii controllers, and was made possible because it was essentially the same hardware. Now we'll probably have a different architeture and no controller issues.

 

TP port wasn't necessary at all, Nintendo just could leave it only GC version and force people to buy GC controller in order to play game on Wii, but they wanted strong launch title for Wii that will go very well with Wii Sports and they wanted to sell few millions copies of game on Wii too, those are resons why they ported game on Wii, and from those same reasons they will port Zelda U on NX and make it launch title.

They could do that but if they ACTUALLY WANTED TO SELL IT TO WII OWNERS, porting was the best choice. Forcing people to buy another controller would severly reduce sales. That's why there's no reason to port Zelda U to anything.





Thunderbird77 said:

Bundling the wii with gamecube controllers would be needlessly expensive. Bundling a gamecube game with a gamecube controller would have been redundant. There's no comparing to limited edition bundles nintendo does every now and then.

The port was necessary due to incompatibility with wii controllers, and was made possible because it was essentially the same hardware. Now we'll probably have a different architeture and no controller issues.



SS was bundled with WMP for little cost, they even bundle Smash 4 with GC controllers it doesn't cost that much, these aren't even limited editions either these are bundles to save someone money of buying the game and peripheral seperate, bloody Wiiplay came with a free Wiimote for crying out loud.

The port happened because of the 3 reasons I mentioned, MC was an uncertain factor an no one at that point would have expected Wiisports to become a force and in fact Wiisports wasn't even featured much at all leading up to the Wii's launch, the main attention grabber was Zelda because it was at the time the most hyped game. A port wasn't needed but the 3 reasons I pointed out are why one was done as it was a strategic move, why do you think the GC version even launched after the Wii version despite the Wii version being the port? It's nothing to do with controllers and all to do with what I mentioned.



curl-6 said:
DevilRising said:

I've been saying this literally since the "NX" was first even hinted at. It's NOT coming out in 2016, at all. If it does, it would be a retarded move on Nintendo's part. Wii U is still making them money, not a TON, but enough. 3DS is still making them money, a fair bit actually. There is zero reason to replace either this year, and the new Prez himself has said they are "in no hurry to replace Wii U". Similar statements were made about 3DS earlier on as well.

NX is VERY VERY likely not coming out in 2016. And not only is saying it will wishful thinking, it's also silly wishful thinking, because wanting a new system to be rushed and potentially hurt it's long-term success, when you can just as easily wait and (god forbid) enjoy another year or so of good Wii U gaming. Just doesn't make any rational sense for anyone to want Nintendo to rush Wii U's succesor to market. Let it "cook" as long as it needs to go be GOOD, and have a strong lineup of games waiting, not just for launch, but all the way up until it's first holiday season and beyond. If you want NX to succeed, then THAT is what you should want to happen, in 2017.

"Another year of good Wii U gaming"?

The Wii U has barely anything coming out even this year, and nothing at all announced for 2017.

If there were any big games still to come, we'd know about them by now. They haven't announced a major new Wii U game since E3 2014, the writing is on the wall.

Some people believe delayed games and late localizations are "good gaming" because WiiU taught them to lower their expectations.





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Wyrdness said:
Thunderbird77 said:

Bundling the wii with gamecube controllers would be needlessly expensive. Bundling a gamecube game with a gamecube controller would have been redundant. There's no comparing to limited edition bundles nintendo does every now and then.

The port was necessary due to incompatibility with wii controllers, and was made possible because it was essentially the same hardware. Now we'll probably have a different architeture and no controller issues.



SS was bundled with WMP for little cost, they even bundle Smash 4 with GC controllers it doesn't cost that much, these aren't even limited editions either these are bundles to save someone money of buying the game and peripheral seperate, bloody Wiiplay came with a free Wiimote for crying out loud.

The port happened because of the 3 reasons I mentioned, MC was an uncertain factor an no one at that point would have expected Wiisports to become a force and in fact Wiisports wasn't even featured much at all leading up to the Wii's launch, the main attention grabber was Zelda because it was at the time the most hyped game. A port wasn't needed but the 3 reasons I pointed out are why one was done as it was a strategic move, why do you think the GC version even launched after the Wii version despite the Wii version being the port? It's nothing to do with controllers and all to do with what I mentioned.

Wii motion plus was a small and cheap acessory, far cheaper than a full controller and was only partially bundled.





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Thunderbird77 said:
Miyamotoo said:
Thunderbird77 said:

Bundling the wii with gamecube controllers would be needlessly expensive. Bundling a gamecube game with a gamecube controller would have been redundant. There's no comparing to limited edition bundles nintendo does every now and then.

The port was necessary due to incompatibility with wii controllers, and was made possible because it was essentially the same hardware. Now we'll probably have a different architeture and no controller issues.

 

TP port wasn't necessary at all, Nintendo just could leave it only GC version and force people to buy GC controller in order to play game on Wii, but they wanted strong launch title for Wii that will go very well with Wii Sports and they wanted to sell few millions copies of game on Wii too, those are resons why they ported game on Wii, and from those same reasons they will port Zelda U on NX and make it launch title.

They could do that but if they ACTUALLY WANTED TO SELL IT TO WII OWNERS, porting was the best choice. Forcing people to buy another controller would severly reduce sales. That's why there's no reason to port Zelda U to anything.



They could sale GC controller with game or sale just separate GC controller, we already saw something similar with Skyward Sword and Motion Plus.

Again main reasons why they port TP to Wii and why they will port Zelda U and make it launch title for NX are because in that way they will have killer app for launch of complete new platform and because they will sell few millions of NX copie of a game.



Pavolink said:
curl-6 said:

"Another year of good Wii U gaming"?

The Wii U has barely anything coming out even this year, and nothing at all announced for 2017.

If there were any big games still to come, we'd know about them by now. They haven't announced a major new Wii U game since E3 2014, the writing is on the wall.

Some people believe delayed games and late localizations are "good gaming" because WiiU taught them to lower their expectations.



I think they're just hoping future directs and E3 have more games for 2016-2017.

OT: I'd be very surprised if Wii U's sucessor comes out next year. Nintendo has made no move to make the Wii U  significantly cheaper than its launch price of 350$ (and the 300$ price was an option at launch too). This shows that Nintendo has no intention of being competitive for market share. And with the lack of high quality mainstream games this recent holiday season, its safe to predict Nintendo has moved on from making big games on the Wii U and are moving on to its successor. Whether or not if this is a dumb move since Wii U life span is less than 5 years is not the main issue. The main issue is Nintendo has shown they are ready to move on.

People may be expecting something at E3 for late 2016 and 2017 but consider this.

in 2013: Xenoblade X and FE was announced. Only one of those game has come out to the Western market.

In 2014: Zelda U and Star Fox Zero were announced and shown: None of these games have been released yet

In 2015: The only new games shown were Animal Crossing and Mario Tennis which have already released. 

Additionally, all 2016 games have been announced or shown before 2015 (Pokken was hinted a year after X with a footage of Blazekin and Lucario)

Based on this trend, if Nintendo has any games for 2017, they would have shown it by now to give us something to hold onto. 2015 did not give us anything new for 2016 let alone 2017.



What everyone is missing is that ,we will find out in April or May definitely if the Nintendo Nx is coming out this year ...the fiscal year ends March 31....Nintendo will soon after have projections for the next fiscal year......it will show how many units they intend to sell for the fiscal year.....(example if they state they have projections to sell 20 million units ..let's say 2 millions wii u's and let's say 5 or 6 million 3ds worldwide ......it would be somewhat obvious that the Nintendo Nx will arrive in 2016) for the fiscal year....(2016-2017)



Jay70sgamer said:
What everyone is missing is that ,we will find out in April or May definitely if the Nintendo Nx is coming out this year ...the fiscal year ends March 31....Nintendo will soon after have projections for the next fiscal year......it will show how many units they intend to sell for the fiscal year.....(example if they state they have projections to sell 20 million units ..let's say 2 millions wii u's and let's say 5 or 6 million 3ds worldwide ......it would be somewhat obvious that the Nintendo Nx will arrive in 2016) for the fiscal year....(2016-2017)

Oh this is a good point as well. Can't wait to find out!



curl-6 said:
DevilRising said:

I've been saying this literally since the "NX" was first even hinted at. It's NOT coming out in 2016, at all. If it does, it would be a retarded move on Nintendo's part. Wii U is still making them money, not a TON, but enough. 3DS is still making them money, a fair bit actually. There is zero reason to replace either this year, and the new Prez himself has said they are "in no hurry to replace Wii U". Similar statements were made about 3DS earlier on as well.

NX is VERY VERY likely not coming out in 2016. And not only is saying it will wishful thinking, it's also silly wishful thinking, because wanting a new system to be rushed and potentially hurt it's long-term success, when you can just as easily wait and (god forbid) enjoy another year or so of good Wii U gaming. Just doesn't make any rational sense for anyone to want Nintendo to rush Wii U's succesor to market. Let it "cook" as long as it needs to go be GOOD, and have a strong lineup of games waiting, not just for launch, but all the way up until it's first holiday season and beyond. If you want NX to succeed, then THAT is what you should want to happen, in 2017.

"Another year of good Wii U gaming"?

The Wii U has barely anything coming out even this year, and nothing at all announced for 2017.

If there were any big games still to come, we'd know about them by now. They haven't announced a major new Wii U game since E3 2014, the writing is on the wall.

how do you know wii u has nothing else coming out this year? do you oversee all of nintendo's development teams? if so, what projects do they have lined up for the Wii U's successor when it releases this fall? lol

seriously though, how quickly do we forget nintendo's e3 2010.