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Protendo said:
I think a big part of the problem is that Intel is complacent.

An I2600K OC is still viable for everything 4+ years later. What is the reason to upgrade? The performance increase is just not worth the extremely minor upgrade. If computers bought 2 years ago, aren't much faster than a new computer than what incentive do customers have to upgrade?

I doubt it is about Intel being complacent. I don't buy either into the "AMD is weak, so we don't try" conspiracy. The instruction set architecture of x86 is very complex, and bloated from over 35 years of expansions. Intel tried to move away from it once with Itanium, but failed, not specifically because of the merits of x86 but the fact the whole thing was a miss on Pentium 4 levels.

That is not to say x86 is bad. Any architecture coming close to it on single-thread performance would suffer from the same downsides. It's feasible Intel could squeeze, say, an extra 10% IPC improvement by doubling transistor count every die shrink, but then power consumption targets would shoot through the roof, and they wouldn't have space for iGPUs unless they made the chips bigger (and thus start to reduce their profit margins significantly - though maybe prompting theirs, and other foundries, to switch to larger silicon wafers sooner).

 





 

 

 

 

 

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ArnoldRimmer said:
BTW, in other interesting news:

Only about 14% of all computer devices sold these days are actually using a Windows operating system.

How much market share did windows used to have? 





OneKartVita said:
ArnoldRimmer said:
BTW, in other interesting news:

Only about 14% of all computer devices sold these days are actually using a Windows operating system.

How much market share did windows used to have? 

Before smartphones and tablets? Some 90%.

("Wintel" here being a pormanteau of Windows and Intel, meaning computers running a MS OS plus an x86 CPU)





 

 

 

 

 

Also decided to take a gander at PCGamers article which actually shows individual component manufactures like Nvidia and others making more profit and double digits.

More are moving away from pre-builts to mobiles and phones for their casual needs while those who are gamers in that spectrum are building their own and buying the parts more and more.

http://www.pcgamer.com/pc-sales-suffer-record-fall/

So PC gaming itself isn't in a decline or dying like we're being click baited to suggest. The only decline is for those that sell over prices pre-built PC's, most of which aren't created for gaming in mind.



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Good that actually HP and Dell lose the most unlike in my other thread my report stated, feel bad for Acer tough their make good quality PCs for cheaper price



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The number of shipped iOS devices has overtaken Windows devices in 2015.

Rather than focusing on the gaming aspect of the news, let's discuss how Android and iOS are changing changing the market.



I'll be getting a custom mid-range gaming PC when I upgrade next, possibly in 2017, so my purchase will be recorded int he "Others" category.



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Protendo said:
I think a big part of the problem is that Intel is complacent.

An I2600K OC is still viable for everything 4+ years later. What is the reason to upgrade? The performance increase is just not worth the extremely minor upgrade. If computers bought 2 years ago, aren't much faster than a new computer than what incentive do customers have to upgrade?

I have two laptops. One with Core 2 Duo  and the other one comes with an i5 hasewell processor. Both have 8 gb of RAM. The perfomance difference is hardly noticeable.

Personally, I will not be getting new laptops until mine break. 

I think slapping SSD on most 4 years old laptops will give it a new breath of life. No compelling reasons to buy a new laptop.



Chazore said:
Also decided to take a gander at PCGamers article which actually shows individual component manufactures like Nvidia and others making more profit and double digits.

More are moving away from pre-builts to mobiles and phones for their casual needs while those who are gamers in that spectrum are building their own and buying the parts more and more.

http://www.pcgamer.com/pc-sales-suffer-record-fall/

So PC gaming itself isn't in a decline or dying like we're being click baited to suggest. The only decline is for those that sell over prices pre-built PC's, most of which aren't created for gaming in mind.

The OP didn't suggest that tho, nor did the title. It just presented raw numbers.



Good to see the top 3 give up marketshare to ASUS.