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AlfredoTurkey said:
This whole thing is 3DO all over again. I'm sure the people over at Sony were popping the corks as soon as the news hit and giving each other high fives.

 

I'm not sure how direct their competition will be as of yet... Oculus Rift seems like superior headset that enthusiasts will be getting, while the Sony VR should be popular will ps4 owners, especially if Sony's claim of having ~100+ games in development turns out to been true.

With the oculus rift not working on the ps4 and the Sony VR not working on the PC, I think the only real competition will be people deciding which to get first. I'm still rather undecided on that myself... Will have to review what games are available for each in the immediate future.

Either way, we ought to think of this hardware as being the first generation of true VR; the technology and experience will only improve. It should be of no surprise to anyone that it's proving expensive and I haven't the slightest clue why this Rift CEO was boneheaded enough to suggest it might be ~$350.



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AlfredoTurkey said:
This whole thing is 3DO all over again. I'm sure the people over at Sony were popping the corks as soon as the news hit and giving each other high fives.

i doubt they are popping corks. 

when ms announced xbone at $500 they popped corks because they had a clear competitive advantage in a market that was known to exist.

VR as a market doesn't exist.  yeah, sony has a bit of a competitive advantage right now but the psvr market and pc vr market probably don't have too much overlap and bad press about VR is bad for all VR players. 



JRPGfan said:
You can tell this is the first product Oculus rift has really launched... the handling of it.... not so great.

 

yeah, seriously.  they inexperience is really showing.  this is why i expect psvr to undercut OR on price quite significantly desipite have a headset that some are saying is a better experience than OR.  sony don't has soo much more experience making hardware.

OR is kind of reminding me of the original xbox.  it was ms's first attempt at hardware and they got screwed by nvida.  OR looks like it is getting screwed all over the place.



All the PR from Oculus i've seen recently is them slamming all the competition and whining at potential customers. It seems like what Atari did with the Jaguar - they knew it would fail catastrophically and threw a load of insults at everyone before they went bust.

Case in point: This classic interview with Sam Tramiel, head of Atari in 1995

Edit - this site won't accept Archive.org's URLs, so I just exported the page to PDF and put it on my Dropbox.



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The easiest way to deal with it is don't buy oculus but buy the competition's VR gear. That's the only way that guy will get it.



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kitler53 said:
JRPGfan said:
You can tell this is the first product Oculus rift has really launched... the handling of it.... not so great.

 

yeah, seriously.  they inexperience is really showing.  this is why i expect psvr to undercut OR on price quite significantly desipite have a headset that some are saying is a better experience than OR.  sony don't has soo much more experience making hardware.

OR is kind of reminding me of the original xbox.  it was ms's first attempt at hardware and they got screwed by nvida.  OR looks like it is getting screwed all over the place.

Look at Razor's OSVR.

People are saying thats about as good as the Oculus rift, and theyre selling at 300$.

If sony comes out at 300$ as well... I mean... Something has to have gone if Oculus rift is the only guy makeing them at 600$.





JRPGfan said:
kitler53 said:
JRPGfan said:
You can tell this is the first product Oculus rift has really launched... the handling of it.... not so great.

 

yeah, seriously.  they inexperience is really showing.  this is why i expect psvr to undercut OR on price quite significantly desipite have a headset that some are saying is a better experience than OR.  sony don't has soo much more experience making hardware.

OR is kind of reminding me of the original xbox.  it was ms's first attempt at hardware and they got screwed by nvida.  OR looks like it is getting screwed all over the place.

Look at Razor's OSVR.

People are saying thats about as good as the Oculus rift, and theyre selling at 300$.

If sony comes out at 300$ as well... I mean... Something has to have gone if Oculus rift is the only guy makeing them at 600$.



And only Sony has the brand credibility to provide customers a certain degree of comfortability with their product. Oculus really needs to do something about their PR, because launching a brand new product, from a brand new company, at a much higher price point, is a tough sell. Imagine if it was the Oculus XBoxOne that went head-to-head with PS4.





Insidb said:
JRPGfan said:

Look at Razor's OSVR.

People are saying thats about as good as the Oculus rift, and theyre selling at 300$.

If sony comes out at 300$ as well... I mean... Something has to have gone if Oculus rift is the only guy makeing them at 600$.



And only Sony has the brand credibility to provide customers a certain degree of comfortability with their product. Oculus really needs to do something about their PR, because launching a brand new product, from a brand new company, at a much higher price point, is a tough sell. Imagine if it was the Oculus XBoxOne that went head-to-head with PS4.

 

Or putting it another way, Sony has the "brand credibility" because potential users are almost certain there will be some AAA software support for the new headset. I know there is a lot of software in development for the Rift, but potential users have the right to be skeptical about it as its a new platform with no guarantee of the games being released, or even there being any other games apart from launch title and indie titles.

Probably the biggest advantages Playstation VR has over Oculus Rift are: 1) Users can be certain there will be software that will support it; 2) It plugs into hardware they either already have, or is at an affordable price. Until we know how much the Playstation VR will cost, arguments over the price of the headset won't be able to be adequately resolved.

(Of course you could argue that Playstation Move was abandoned quickly, but keep in mind there were a few AAA games that did support it, and it was launched into a crowded market (motion controls) rather than a new one (VR).)



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kitler53 said:

i doubt they are popping corks. 

when ms announced xbone at $500 they popped corks because they had a clear competitive advantage in a market that was known to exist.

VR as a market doesn't exist.  yeah, sony has a bit of a competitive advantage right now but the psvr market and pc vr market probably don't have too much overlap and bad press about VR is bad for all VR players. 

 


My thoughts exactly. This is a shining example of 'healthy competition' and Occulus has had by far the most amount of publicity since its kickstarter days



Also, for what it's worth, Luckey Palmer, the founder and inventor of Occulus Rift is only 23 years old. 23 years old and he came from an internet forum. Can't really expect everyone to be born with business sense