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GribbleGrunger on 07 January 2016
twintail said:

 

You seriously think Sony cares about competing with the PS2? They only care about keeping the PS brand profitable. If it keeps up ahead of PS2 then great. If it doesn't then who cares? They sure don't.

If X1 gets a big game in one month with nothing major for PS4, what does that really mean? By 2017, not much, especially in the light of Bend's horror game, SP's new open world title, GT7, GoW4, FF7R and whatever other JPN exclusive is coming.  

NMS's is just an outlier example as it is a regular release ever since announcement. If it gets VR support then that is obviously good but it has never been designed like that. The reality is that most ppl are not going to play NMS as a vr title (if it is one) because most ppl are not going to care about forking out a few hundred more for a VR set when they do not need it. Experience alone is not going to offset the price point of VR. There are going to need to be meaningful software that actually requires the use of the device.

As as I mentioned before, VR games becoming non-VR is not going to create a surge in hardware sales at any point of the year unless it is some big brand IP like GT7, nor will it look like anything against a major X1 release. The only ppl who care about this latter issue are forum users, which unfortunantely make up a minority of the ppl actually buying game harware in the first place.

There is no reason for Sony to play a numbers game in terms of software when they have more important things to do: make VR successful. If that happens, they will move hardware.

Are you under the impression that I'm one of those silly little teenagers who can't bare to think the PS4 might lose a month? I'm just offering one possible reason Sony might just do what I've said. Just the fact they can make sure there is a constant stream of games would be enough. Now Sony are benchmarking against the PS2 they'll want to make sure there are no lulls, whether it's because of a lack of software (in a paticular month) or XB1 that takes sales away from the PS4. Even possibly the NX if it releases.



 

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GribbleGrunger on 07 January 2016
RolStoppable said:
Do you really think that there are over 100 games in development that will work exclusively with PS VR?

What's that got to do with what I'm saying?





 

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Normchacho on 07 January 2016

Nah, I think it's more important for Sony to go "Guys! look at these sweet games! Go buy PSVR!" than it is for them to have an even bigger game advantage in 2017. I say that because I seriously doubt MS is going to launch more or bigger exclusives in 2017 than Sony will.



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GribbleGrunger on 07 January 2016
RolStoppable said:

Everything, because it's much more likely that the number of games Hirai mentioned are merely PS VR compatible, meaning that they'll run on a vanilla PS4 to begin with.

That doesn't change my point. I'm talking about VR games that are only VR games to start with but are designed in such a way they could actually be sold as ordinary PS4 games if Sony felt they needed some extra content here and there. Let's say Horizon: Zero Dawn gets pushed back to 2017 and Sony needs something to fill that spot. Perhaps two VR games playable on the ordinary PS4 would be perfect (depending on what they were). Not only does it give Sony some leeway to adjust release dates but it also gives developers a chance of making more money on older VR games.

Sony are no longer competing with MS, they competing with the PS2 and they'll want to keep that momentum going.





 

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GribbleGrunger on 07 January 2016
RolStoppable said:

That's what I mean, you are talking about a total of fewer than ten games, and that high-end estimate is generous.

Ten would be plenty but I'm struggling to understand why you think it's only ten. What are the 100 VR games Kaz spoke of?





 

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The_BlackHeart__ on 07 January 2016

I don't believe PlayStation will be in any kind of disadvantage in 2016 or 2017.

This PS library of already announced games could be distributed for 3 or 4 years and PS will still have the advantage.

Ace Combat 7
Alienation
Attack on Titan
Boundless
Darkest Dungeon
Dead or Alive Xtreme 3
Deep Down
Detroit Become Human
Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth
Dragon Quest Builders
Dragon Quest Heroes 2
Drawn to Death
Dreams
Final Fantasy 7 Remake
Firewatch
God Eater 2 Rage Burst
God Eater Resurrection
Gran Turismo Sport
Gravity Rush 2
Gravity Rush HD
H1Z1
Hardware: Rivals
Heavy Rain
Hellblade
Horizon: Zero Dawn
Hunger
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Eyes of Heaven
Kill Strain
Killing Floor 2
King of Fighters 14
Let it Die
Megadimension Neptunia VII
MLB 16
Ni no Kuni 2
Ni-Oh
Nier Automata
No Man's Sky
Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir
One Piece: Pirate Warriors 3
Paragon
Persona 5
Phantasy Star Online 2
Ratchet and Clank
Rime
Shadow of the Beast
Shenmue 3
Shenmue HD
Star ocean 5
Steins;Gate 2 (aka Steins;Gate Zero)
Steins;Gate HD
Street Fighter 5
Summon Night 6
Sword Art Online: Hollow Realization
Tales of Berseria
The Last Guardian
The Tomorrow Children
The Witch and the Hundred Knight Revival
The Witness
Umbrella Corps
Uncharted 4
What Remains of Edith Finch
Wild
World of Final Fantasy
Yakuza 6 (aka Yakuza Zero)
Yakuza HD

Above, a list of upcoming titles either full, timed or console Exclusive to PlayStation. VR is just a cherry on the top. Lets give Microsoft a break.



pbroy on 07 January 2016

I'd buy a PS4 over a PS2. Who in their right mind would buy a PS2 over a PS4 now? That thing has no Trophies. 😒

I have both already BTW. But if I didn't.

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LudicrousSpeed on 07 January 2016

PS4 is now competing with PS2? lulwhat?

Also, I doubt those 100 games are actually PSVR inspired games, as in built from the ground up to be VR. So you're getting your wish without devs or Sony even having to lift a finger, congrats.



GribbleGrunger on 08 January 2016

Andrew House:

'We’ve just seen the most successful Black Friday in the company’s history. We are now trying to benchmark against the success of the PlayStation 2 – or exceed it if possible.'

It makes sense not to set your sights too low.



 

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CosmicSex on 08 January 2016

Gribble, this is a question for devlopers. The idea is that a VR game needs to be designed from the ground up for VR. This works for some games, but the cost associated with developing both games man not be worth it in some cases? Racing and flight games, yes.