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No 3D, no backwards compatibility, no dual screen, use every inch of the device to make a powerful handheld.



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Pavolink said:
No 3D, no backwards compatibility, no dual screen, use every inch of the device to make a powerful handheld.

Cos that worked so well for the Vita. :P



curl-6 said:
Pavolink said:
No 3D, no backwards compatibility, no dual screen, use every inch of the device to make a powerful handheld.

Cos that worked so well for the Vita. :P

 

Worked for GameBoy. And for mobiles.

If they are after mainstream crew, they care for those things.

Also, Vita's library is the meaning of niche.



Proud to be the first cool Nintendo fan ever

Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


Pavolink said:
curl-6 said:
Pavolink said:
No 3D, no backwards compatibility, no dual screen, use every inch of the device to make a powerful handheld.

Cos that worked so well for the Vita. :P

Worked for GameBoy. And for mobiles.

If they are after mainstream crew, they care for those things.

Also, Vita's library is the meaning of niche.

It was a totally different market back when the Gameboy ruled.

Consumers in 2016 are not going to drop over $200 for a dedicated portable gaming system when they can play games on the phone they already own. Expensive high-end hardware would be financial suicide.



curl-6 said:
Pavolink said:

Worked for GameBoy. And for mobiles.

If they are after mainstream crew, they care for those things.

Also, Vita's library is the meaning of niche.

It was a totally different market back when the Gameboy ruled.

Consumers in 2016 are not going to drop over $200 for a dedicated portable gaming system when they can play games on the phone they already own. Expensive high-end hardware would be financial suicide.

And the market has changed again. That's why the rejected the 3DS, That's why it failed to grab the mainstreams, That's why they had to do a big price cut after release.

The financial suicide will be releasing another gimped device like the 3DS, and the same can be said about the Wii U.





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Dulfite said:
hershel_layton said:

The 3DS is a disappointment when it comes to specs. 240p screen, mediocre battery life, ridiculously low RAM amount, and so on.

It is now 2016, and I think the wide range of options for a handheld device is very beneficial for Nintendo...that is, if they pay attention.

Now, without a do, here are the specs I think Nintendo's next handheld should be.

 

1) a 720/1080p screen(and a lower resolution screen for the bottom[if they make the handheld like the 3DS])

2) No less than 1 GB of ram. 2 or 3 is recommended

3) A processor along the lines of Qualcomm's Snapdragon 400/600 series(slightly less wouldn't hurt).

4) No 3D. The gimmick isn't needed. Even the "improved stable 3D'' is still flawed. Besides, 3D isn't that much of an attraction point for people nowadays.

5) Improved OS. The 3DS(and Wii U) really need a better OS for their future replacements. Getting a friendcode and needing the other person to add you is extremely frustrating. An ID and message board would be much better( and if people care so much, they can put restrictions for the kiddies).

6) Reasonable price tag- Nintendo screwed up when they made the 3DS $250 in the beginning. If they're making a regular sized handheld and a larger version, they should make the prices at the most 200. 

 

 

Now, some of you may think the specs I am recommending will make the NX handheld too much. However, many gadgets nowadays can easily have said specs(and better) for a low price. Demanding top-tier specs is out of the question. However, after seeing many budget tablets and phones be much more powerful than the 3DS and only cost along the lines of $50-200 is ridiculous. 

 

Hopefully Nintendo doesn't stick with weak hardware.

 

The 3ds wasnt really weak when it first came out. It was in the middle. Also, they like creating new ways to play. The only way they could male your devise is if they didnt include any unique feature (3d), amd then it would fail just like every other "hardcore handheld ( vita, shiel, etc). The nintendo handheld series sell well because nintendo innovates.


The Gameboy Color and Advance both sold like gangbusters and all they did was up the specs and tech. They don't need to do what you're saying to do well as long as they keep making compelling software. As Al Nilsen likes to say, the name of the game is the game.



JWeinCom said:
I don't particularly care about how many ps it has. With a small device, pixel density isn't too much of an issue for me. Nintendo's #1 priority needs to be doing something that can't easily be replicated on phones. I think Streetpass is a neat feature that can be build upon, as is NFC (amiibo). Stuff like that will be more important than pixel density.

 

As long as there's physical buttons, their devices will always be able to do things smartphones can't lol



curl-6 said:
Pavolink said:
No 3D, no backwards compatibility, no dual screen, use every inch of the device to make a powerful handheld.

Cos that worked so well for the Vita. :P

 

Well to be fair, Vita wasn't a failure simply because it was powerful.



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Pavolink said:
curl-6 said:
Pavolink said:

Worked for GameBoy. And for mobiles.

If they are after mainstream crew, they care for those things.

Also, Vita's library is the meaning of niche.

It was a totally different market back when the Gameboy ruled.

Consumers in 2016 are not going to drop over $200 for a dedicated portable gaming system when they can play games on the phone they already own. Expensive high-end hardware would be financial suicide.

And the market has changed again. That's why the rejected the 3DS, That's why it failed to grab the mainstreams, That's why they had to do a big price cut after release.

The financial suicide will be releasing another gimped device like the 3DS, and the same can be said about the Wii U.

A high powered dedicated portable released this year or next would sell far worse than the 3DS and financially wreck Nintendo.

They would have to either sell it at a loss and haemorrhage money, or jack the price up beyond what anybody but the most hardcore fans would pay, and have sub-Vita sales.



If it's about as powerful as a 360/Wii U (roughly) ... they may as well make it a micro-console too (as in you can use it as a mobile console). Make it run Android apps too (as per that Nikkei leak). I mean it would be easy to make it stream to the TV right? Or even have a physical mini-HDMI port. 

This would add lots of value to the device which is the key. Just crapping out a cheap handheld won't work, parents aren't stupid they know $199.99 is not cheap with $40+ games when Android tablets are $129.99 or less these days with free games.

Nintendo needs to change the value proposition they offer, if the leading point of a dedicated handheld is that it can play "real games", then they need to emphasize that more and widen the gap between Android/Apple tablets and what they offer.

NX Portable - $229-$249, can be used as a mini-console AND a portable (can your Android tablet do that?). Also runs Android apps and tons of Virtual Console titles (GCN and Wii and Wii U too). Bundle it with a free Amiibo + Amiibo game. Versus a $199.99 3DS XL, this a waaaaay better value. Slightly better than Wii U graphics.

NX Console - Now, this would be a different proposition, as the console market has changed so much (ie: dead in Japan), make the console a higher end product for adult players primarily, because that's all that's left of the console market. NX Console can play all the portable games (so it can play all the Nintendo games) at better graphics. But it can also run high-end ports of PC games/PS4 games with even better graphics. 3 TFLOP+ and upgradable so Sony/MS can't cut Nintendo's knees off 2-3 years with better hardware. $349.99 for hardcore gamers first and foremost.

Most/all Nintendo games run on both the portable and console, the portable just runs them at 720p with lower end graphical effects, if you have the big fat console, they run in 1080P to 2K/4K resolution with added effects. 

I think this would be a good balance. Budget/kid gamers can get the portable and with the added value of being a mini-console that can stream games to your TV. Japan would go crazy over this model. Older hardcore gamers can get the console, if you have both great. US/Europe would probably prefer this model.