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Wonktonodi said:

The point of adjusting for inflation is to try and get a better comparison of ticket sales and not just dollar amounts the price of movies tickets while not a constant compared to the dollar hasn't flucuated so widely that they aren't comparable. So saying if they cost what they do now people wouldn't go makes no sence. They cost less that a quater when GWTW came out but EVERYTHING cost less and people were making less, and no Gone with the Wind isn't at 5 billion when adjusted it's about 3.4 billion wolrd wide.  want to hear something crazy? The movie that is listed as number 2 is Avatar with a little over 3 then star wars with 2.8 and Titanic with 2.5. So while hard milestones to reach, they are harldy undoable and the coparisons are fair.

While people in the some contries wre going to much more movies then, the movies had more competition from other movies then, plus movies today have a much bigger market than back then, the US population was 130 million back then so 200 million fewer people than now and the world population has more than trippled in adition to more people seeing movies now in some contries than ever before.

Sorry but it is unrealistic, I might be wrong about the 5 billion but its almost 1.7 billion on USA alone, it doesnt get more unrealistic than that. Ppl make more money nowadays but in comparision they dont make so much more that a movie theater ticket became cheaper compared to what ppl make, it became more expensive, and theres way more competition from everything, even from other movies, on Gone With The Wind days we had 1 movie x nothing else for ages.





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ninjapirate42 said:
Jumpin said:

Well that's BS, have you even seen Avatar? How is it the same story as Dances with Wolves? Is it because they both have some sort of a native in it that the protagonist befriends?

This is like saying that Force Awakens is the same story as Titanic because they both have a ship in it. Or that Force Awakens is the same as Sparticus because they're both about a resistance against an Empire.

Let's be real, Avatar is a totally different genre of film than than Dances with Wolves and also a much better film.

 

In all fairness there are many, many, many articles showing the similarities between Avatar and Dances with Wolves.

 

Fern Gully 3D was nothing like Dances with Wolves.





Wonktonodi said:
DakonBlackblade said:

I dont think anything will ever beat Avatar, but this will definetly beat Avengers, Jurassic World and probably beat Titanic.

No it wouldnt and this also makes no sense, Gone with the Wind adjusted for inflation would have grossed over 5 billion dolars, thats unrealistic as hell, if the tickets costed what they cost nowadays a lot less ppl woudlve bought it, also ppl went more to theaters in the past because we didnt have nearly as much forms of entertainement as we do today. Adjusting grosses for inflation makes 0 sense realy.

 

The point of adjusting for inflation is to try and get a better comparison of ticket sales and not just dollar amounts the price of movies tickets while not a constant compared to the dollar hasn't flucuated so widely that they aren't comparable. So saying if they cost what they do now people wouldn't go makes no sence. They cost less that a quater when GWTW came out but EVERYTHING cost less and people were making less, and no Gone with the Wind isn't at 5 billion when adjusted it's about 3.4 billion wolrd wide.  want to hear something crazy? The movie that is listed as number 2 is Avatar with a little over 3 then star wars with 2.8 and Titanic with 2.5. So while hard milestones to reach, they are harldy undoable and the coparisons are fair.

While people in the some contries wre going to much more movies then, the movies had more competition from other movies then, plus movies today have a much bigger market than back then, the US population was 130 million back then so 200 million fewer people than now and the world population has more than trippled in adition to more people seeing movies now in some contries than ever before.

 



Keep in mind that Americans' wages (especially minimum wage) have been lagging behind inflation since the 1940's, so disposable income is less available to the average American.





DakonBlackblade said:
Wonktonodi said:

The point of adjusting for inflation is to try and get a better comparison of ticket sales and not just dollar amounts the price of movies tickets while not a constant compared to the dollar hasn't flucuated so widely that they aren't comparable. So saying if they cost what they do now people wouldn't go makes no sence. They cost less that a quater when GWTW came out but EVERYTHING cost less and people were making less, and no Gone with the Wind isn't at 5 billion when adjusted it's about 3.4 billion wolrd wide.  want to hear something crazy? The movie that is listed as number 2 is Avatar with a little over 3 then star wars with 2.8 and Titanic with 2.5. So while hard milestones to reach, they are harldy undoable and the coparisons are fair.

While people in the some contries wre going to much more movies then, the movies had more competition from other movies then, plus movies today have a much bigger market than back then, the US population was 130 million back then so 200 million fewer people than now and the world population has more than trippled in adition to more people seeing movies now in some contries than ever before.

Sorry but it is unrealistic, I might be wrong about the 5 billion but its almost 1.7 billion on USA alone, it doesnt get more unrealistic than that. Ppl make more money nowadays but in comparision they dont make so much more that a movie theater ticket became cheaper compared to what ppl make, it became more expensive, and theres way more competition from everything, even from other movies, on Gone With The Wind days we had 1 movie x nothing else for ages.



You seem to keep thinking things but aren't bringing up the numbers to back it up like the five billion before you are wrong on several counts.

first the 1.7 billion being unrealistic. Realistic for what? for a movie to possible beat? yeah it's very very unlikely for a movie to pass it it sold so many more tickets than any other movie in the US by far, it didn't happen over night it took years of succesfull rereleases as well.See the list below Maybe instead of focusing on the number 1 movie. Look and see if it can't break the top 10 or pass avatar on that list. Plus while it might not even get into the top 10 in the US it can possibly become the number 1 in the world with inflation since the US box office won't make any where near as much of the total gross as it did for GWTW.

Just just claimed that Gone with the wind had no competition during the golden age of hollywood. Where some studios were pumpiong out 400 films a year. After the golden age and the studios lost much of their power the studios made fewer but larger budget films.

As for you talk of wages compared to ticket prices. minimum wage has improved with inflation a little less well than ticket prices have increased, though. Also lets not forget it came out while there was still the great depression and then WWII

A further thing, GWTW is almost 4 hours

Insidb said:
Wonktonodi said:

The point of adjusting for inflation is to try and get a better comparison of ticket sales and not just dollar amounts the price of movies tickets while not a constant compared to the dollar hasn't flucuated so widely that they aren't comparable. So saying if they cost what they do now people wouldn't go makes no sence. They cost less that a quater when GWTW came out but EVERYTHING cost less and people were making less, and no Gone with the Wind isn't at 5 billion when adjusted it's about 3.4 billion wolrd wide.  want to hear something crazy? The movie that is listed as number 2 is Avatar with a little over 3 then star wars with 2.8 and Titanic with 2.5. So while hard milestones to reach, they are harldy undoable and the coparisons are fair.

While people in the some contries wre going to much more movies then, the movies had more competition from other movies then, plus movies today have a much bigger market than back then, the US population was 130 million back then so 200 million fewer people than now and the world population has more than trippled in adition to more people seeing movies now in some contries than ever before.

 



Keep in mind that Americans' wages (especially minimum wage) have been lagging behind inflation since the 1940's, so disposable income is less available to the average American.



minimum wage in 1939, $0.25 adjusted for inflation that's $4.25 today. So in other aspects, compared to when the movie came out and shortly after people even with minimum wage are better off. While on hour of work for many people won't neccisarily cover a movie and a little more, there are many more people working and there are matiness and bargains people can find to make up the difference.

Also a movie like GWTW has kind of seen it all in terms of how the american wages are. considering it's release ans rereleases 1939, 1942, 1947, 1954, 1961, 1967, 1971, 1974, 1989 and 1998. So it ran a full spectrum of wages, had thousands of movies as competition yet people kept coming to see it.





Wow, force awakens netted 37M on Tuesday acording to Box office mojo, this is insane, the movie is at 325.5M and hasnt even seen its second weckend yet. Its almost getting to 700M worldwide without having released on China.



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DakonBlackblade said:
Wow, force awakens netted 37M on Tuesday acording to Box office mojo, this is insane, the movie is at 325.5M and hasnt even seen its second weckend yet. Its almost getting to 700M worldwide without having released on China.

It will be well over a billion before it comes out it China





Wonktonodi said:

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The entire USA list is dominated by stuf from before the 80s, and full of pre 60s movies, its very very unrealistic to think any of these movies released today, with current ticket prices, multitude of entertainement avaliable and the fact ppl has less spare money because the amount ppl make did not follow how much stuf got more expensive and also the fact ppl have more bills to pay than they used to 30-40 years ago, would make anywhere near the million/billions they suposed would do with the adjustment to inflation. In fact the top 10 has only 1 movie from the 90s the rest is pre 90. Even Avatar wich was a absolute phenomenom, that had multiple re-releases is  only 14 on the domestic box office adjusted to inflation list and 3rd on the worldwide one, considering that in the past movies would only release years after theyre American release on some select few markets worldwide, the Chinese market wasnt even a thing, the fact that Gone With the Wind with its inflation adjusted budget still made amost 3.9 billion (ye I was wrong about the 5 billion, big deal, 3.9 bil is so much more realistic...) is beyond retarded, adjusting anything to inflation dont work thinks sels as well or as bad as they sell cause they release on the time they released, if you change the context the result would also be very different.





I don't see why people hate on Avatar for making 2 billion. It was a good movie.

I havent seen Star Wars yet(in fact, I haven't seen any in a while), so I'm not sure which one will be better



 

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DakonBlackblade said:
Wonktonodi said:

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The entire USA list is dominated by stuf from before the 80s, and full of pre 60s movies, its very very unrealistic to think any of these movies released today, with current ticket prices, multitude of entertainement avaliable and the fact ppl has less spare money because the amount ppl make did not follow how much stuf got more expensive and also the fact ppl have more bills to pay than they used to 30-40 years ago, would make anywhere near the million/billions they suposed would do with the adjustment to inflation. In fact the top 10 has only 1 movie from the 90s the rest is pre 90. Even Avatar wich was a absolute phenomenom, that had multiple re-releases is  only 14 on the domestic box office adjusted to inflation list and 3rd on the worldwide one, considering that in the past movies would only release years after theyre American release on some select few markets worldwide, the Chinese market wasnt even a thing, the fact that Gone With the Wind with its inflation adjusted budget still made amost 3.9 billion (ye I was wrong about the 5 billion, big deal, 3.9 bil is so much more realistic...) is beyond retarded, adjusting anything to inflation dont work thinks sels as well or as bad as they sell cause they release on the time they released, if you change the context the result would also be very different.



One last time. World wide adjusted for inflation GWTW is 3.4 billion. The number 2 movie for world wide is Avatar.  

So no need for excuses, or calling the comparison retarded. 



HA! Suck on that all those racist douchebags who wanted everyone to boycott the movie because of black people.



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