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Fei-Hung on 27 December 2015

Is the 2.7billion for avatar with the re-release or without?

I think TFA will catch second wind. A lot of people have been busy over the holiday period and are still waiting to go see it. Word of mouth is spreading and there are some people not wanting to watch it because they want to watch the original trilogy again as they haven't seen them for a long time.

It may not beat Avatar, but I can see it being Jurassic World. So far, all the kids I know who have seen it are wanting to watch it again.

I wonder what this means for SW-BF in terms of sales. My nephews and his their friends are all picking up the game after having watched the film. Wonder how wide spread this will be.



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Wonktonodi on 27 December 2015
Lawlight said:
DakonBlackblade said:

Theres more than just that, the marketing campaing and keeping the mistery about the plot worked wonders, but theres also nostalgia and the fact that Eps 1-3 sucked at play, if 1-3 had been great I dont think ppl would have this much craving for a new Star Wars, itd sell super well but I dont think it would be this insane. Also the reviews both professionaly and by viewers and the word of mouth have been generaly favorable wich helpped a lot as well.

 


Sure that helps too but not as much as marketing. Look at Jurassic World - the franchise was dead but the marketing pushed to a $1.7B movie.

In any case, Star Wars won't have legs outside of the US - it grossed less in RotW than the US during this past week-end. It will need some serious legs in the US and some $500M from China to come close to Avatar.

 

Many markets in rest of the world are closed on Christmas day



Lawlight on 27 December 2015
Wonktonodi said:
Lawlight said:


Sure that helps too but not as much as marketing. Look at Jurassic World - the franchise was dead but the marketing pushed to a $1.7B movie.

In any case, Star Wars won't have legs outside of the US - it grossed less in RotW than the US during this past week-end. It will need some serious legs in the US and some $500M from China to come close to Avatar.

 

Many markets in rest of the world are closed on Christmas day

 

What markets are those? People will have more time during the holidays to go to the theatres.



Teeqoz on 27 December 2015
StarOcean said:
I was thinking about it and TFA might actually do decently well in China. My reason being it is very much a soft-reboot of the franchise and is a great place to start for people who have never seen a Star Wars movie before. They explain the force decently (which I find super important for understanding SW) and the plot is easy to follow much like the movie it imitates.

The only thing that might confuse Chinese audiences is the references to the older movies. TFA definitely panders a lot to OG Trilogy fans, so I'm not sure if they'd be lost by some of the callbacks they make. As I recall, some of the callbacks they did were as bad as 3D movies trying to push the "oooohh look at this, it's 3D!" sorta vein (I'm looking at you Han Solo randomly appearing in the movie XD). Works for people who have nostalgia for SW, not so much for people who have probably only seen the Prequels

 

Han Solo was the best character in the entire movie though . I'm not sure I would've liked it without him. (FYI I'm the "TFA wasn't really that great, it was okay" camp )



animegaming on 27 December 2015

so when does it open in China and how popular is Star Wars over there?



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Wonktonodi on 27 December 2015
Lawlight said:
Wonktonodi said:

 

Many markets in rest of the world are closed on Christmas day

 

What markets are those? People will have more time during the holidays to go to the theatres.

I've heard Australia, and I think I heard the uk as well but I couldn't reconfirm this. In at least Australia I heard boxing day is the biggest day at the box office there.





Soundwave on 27 December 2015
Lawlight said:
DakonBlackblade said:

Theres more than just that, the marketing campaing and keeping the mistery about the plot worked wonders, but theres also nostalgia and the fact that Eps 1-3 sucked at play, if 1-3 had been great I dont think ppl would have this much craving for a new Star Wars, itd sell super well but I dont think it would be this insane. Also the reviews both professionaly and by viewers and the word of mouth have been generaly favorable wich helpped a lot as well.

 


Sure that helps too but not as much as marketing. Look at Jurassic World - the franchise was dead but the marketing pushed to a $1.7B movie.

In any case, Star Wars won't have legs outside of the US - it grossed less in RotW than the US during this past week-end. It will need some serious legs in the US and some $500M from China to come close to Avatar.

Jurassic World made a lot of money because it was a straight forward sequel to the *first* Jurassic Park movie ... which is what a lot of people wanted. 

Marketing budgets don't make blockbusters, if it was that easy, every studio would simply just push put a $200 million dollar marketing budget behind a movie to get a $1.7 billion dollar return ... that's a trade off every studio would make every time. 

The fact is it's not that easy. 

Terminator 4 had a huge marketing budget too ... it didn't make a lot of money. 

You need to have a good movie to start with 95% of the time.

Franchises like Star Wars are extremely rare and hard to come by, if you could just make one from a big marketing budget, every studio would love to do it, I'm sure. I'm sure Paramount, Warner, etc. would have no problem spending even $500 million on a picture if it meant a gaurunteed huge franchise of Star Wars' caliber. 



LordLichtenstein on 27 December 2015
Teeqoz said:
LordLichtenstein said:

 

There is no way Star Wars will out-gross Avatar.

 


Do you mean episode VII won't outgross Avatar or do you mean Avatar 2?

Both :)





Soundwave on 27 December 2015
LordLichtenstein said:
Teeqoz said:

 


Do you mean episode VII won't outgross Avatar or do you mean Avatar 2?

Both :)

 

Cameron better have an unbelievable script for Avatar 2 IMO. That 3D gimmick is not going to carry a second movie. 



StarOcean on 27 December 2015
Teeqoz said:
StarOcean said:
I was thinking about it and TFA might actually do decently well in China. My reason being it is very much a soft-reboot of the franchise and is a great place to start for people who have never seen a Star Wars movie before. They explain the force decently (which I find super important for understanding SW) and the plot is easy to follow much like the movie it imitates.

The only thing that might confuse Chinese audiences is the references to the older movies. TFA definitely panders a lot to OG Trilogy fans, so I'm not sure if they'd be lost by some of the callbacks they make. As I recall, some of the callbacks they did were as bad as 3D movies trying to push the "oooohh look at this, it's 3D!" sorta vein (I'm looking at you Han Solo randomly appearing in the movie XD). Works for people who have nostalgia for SW, not so much for people who have probably only seen the Prequels

 

Han Solo was the best character in the entire movie though . I'm not sure I would've liked it without him. (FYI I'm the "TFA wasn't really that great, it was okay" camp )

What I was referring to was how he appeared initially XD Are there any Chinese VGCharterz here who know what people are currently feeling about SW right now?  I know Disney is trying to hype it as much as they can there at the moment