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Would you get angry if your child received this?

Yes! It is making my child submit to Islam! 77 42.78%
 
No, it is simply teaching... 62 34.44%
 
Who cares? Honestly. No need to be butthurt. 41 22.78%
 
Total:180
piratikkio said:
There is nothing useful to learn about islam

Exept learning to love your other.





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hershel_layton said:
JWeinCom said:

 


I honestly don't know how you can teach atheism. 

"Ok class, today we're going to learn about atheism.  Some people do not believe that any gods exist.  And ummmmmmm.... huh... I guess that's it..."


 Perhaps talking about stereotypes, history of atheists, disadvantages atheists have, etc etc.

 

You can also talk about why they don't believe in god and whatnot.

Eh... I don't think that kind of stuff would work.  Atheists aren't a group in the sense muslims are jews are or whatever, and I'm not sure what atheist history would entail.  I don't think the reasons people don't believe in god should be discussed by teachers.  I have no problem with posing the question to students about whether or not god should be believed in, but no government employed agent should be supplying the answer.

As an atheist I wouldn't want it to be taught in school.  It'd be a total waste of time to me.  I'd rather that time be spent teaching critical thinking, skepticism, the scientific, and the importance of secularism.  Much more important imo.



spurgeonryan said:
Both Christians and Arabic religions are attacked and persecuted so much these days. Everyone is hateful of everyone and afraid of everyone. It is sad that there is no true freedom.

 

Not Arabic religions- semitic religions is probably the more accurate word for it.


Jewdism, Islam, etc. Christianity is poked at  in places such as Saudi Arabia(though, Saudi Arabia also kills its own Muslim civilians)



 

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Gourmet said:
I'm completely favorable to Islam being taught in schools. But if they show what it really is. Including sharia law, caliphates, etc.

The Holy Church prohibits it's members to take part in matters of state and is neutral to political parties. While muslisms are mostly favorable to sharia law and their religious leaders serve as rulers. You got that completely backwards mate, you should be the one studying Islam yourself.

No religion should be taught in USA schools unless it is a private school.  Public schools should be free from religion.  I am a firm believer in seperation of church and state. 

 

To the op: If you want to learn about other religions then take a religion class in college (I took one that covered all major religions), buy a book, or use the internet.  People shouldn't be forced to learn about a religion if they don't want to.





numberwang said:
hershel_layton said:

 

I love the Christian's reactions when I tell them that the Bible forces women to cover their hair, or else they should shave it off.

 

"But, it's from the New Testament!"

 

Yes, because apparently skipping half of the revelations in Christianity is not cherrypicking whatsoever, and still makes you a firm believer in Christianity.

 

You fail to realize basic concepts of christianty like the fullfillment of the old covenant law through Christ's redemption at the cross. Yet you choose to mock a religion that you are ignorant of.



I've studied Christianity for a pretty long time(7 years in fact). Quite sure I'm not ignorant about it ;)

 

I've studied from Christians and non-christians. Also, here's the verse:

For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.

 

To add context, it was referring to prayer only. I seemed to have forgotten to add that. Also, this was the old testament, not the new.





 

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WolfpackN64 said:
piratikkio said:
There is nothing useful to learn about islam

Exept learning to love your other.



I believe the golden rule covers that. 





sethnintendo said:
Gourmet said:
I'm completely favorable to Islam being taught in schools. But if they show what it really is. Including sharia law, caliphates, etc.

The Holy Church prohibits it's members to take part in matters of state and is neutral to political parties. While muslisms are mostly favorable to sharia law and their religious leaders serve as rulers. You got that completely backwards mate, you should be the one studying Islam yourself.

No religion should be taught in USA schools unless it is a private school.  Public schools should be free from religion.  I am a firm believer in seperation of church and state. 

 

To the op: If you want to learn about other religions then take a religion class in college (I took one that covered all major religions), buy a book, or use the internet.  People shouldn't be forced to learn about a religion if they don't want to.

                               

But separation of church has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not you teach about religion. That would be like saying schools shouldn't teach about dictatorships since you live in a democracy. But the teaching should be secular in nature, getting students to constructively analyze religions and their social context. Not teaching about religion would be to give religions the freedom to only teach their perspective on the religion as well.



sethnintendo said:
Gourmet said:
I'm completely favorable to Islam being taught in schools. But if they show what it really is. Including sharia law, caliphates, etc.

The Holy Church prohibits it's members to take part in matters of state and is neutral to political parties. While muslisms are mostly favorable to sharia law and their religious leaders serve as rulers. You got that completely backwards mate, you should be the one studying Islam yourself.

No religion should be taught in USA schools unless it is a private school.  Public schools should be free from religion.  I am a firm believer in seperation of church and state. 

 

To the op: If you want to learn about other religions then take a religion class in college (I took one that covered all major religions), buy a book, or use the internet.  People shouldn't be forced to learn about a religion if they don't want to.



It is absolutely impossible to have a truly firm grasp of history, current events, or literature with no knowledge of religion.  If you don't learn about religion, your education is incomplete.



numberwang said:
hershel_layton said:

 

I love the Christian's reactions when I tell them that the Bible forces women to cover their hair, or else they should shave it off.

 

"But, it's from the New Testament!"

 

Yes, because apparently skipping half of the revelations in Christianity is not cherrypicking whatsoever, and still makes you a firm believer in Christianity.

 

You fail to realize basic concepts of christianty like the fullfillment of the old covenant law through Christ's redemption at the cross. Yet you choose to mock a religion that you are ignorant of.



Matthew 5:17-5:18

English Standard Version
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

English Standard Version
For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

There is no concensus within Christianity as to whether or not Jesus' sacrifice fulfills biblical law.  In the sermon on the mount, it seems pretty clear to me that Jesus does not do away with old testament law.

Many seem to believe that Jesus fulfills sacrificial laws, which would seem to make more sense.  

In the early days of the church, it was a matter of great debate.  The basic compromise was that the old covenant still applied to Jews, but new converts did not have to follow the old testament laws.  This is based on pretty flimsy reasoning, but then again, who is going to join your religion if they have to cut off part of their penis?

Of course, it seems that there would be no reason for an eternal god to make laws that were temporary in the first place.  



deskpro2k3 said:

Muslim believes in Jesus, his name is even in the Quran.

what's wrong with these people? Ignorance.

Well, assuming the people who complained were Christians, I don't see your point (If they aren't Christian then your point is not neccesary).

But, the Jesus in Christainity and the Jesus in Islam are very different. Jesus is the son of God, was crucified, and died in the Bible, and in the Quran, he was only a prophet, and was never crucified and never died. Christians will believe the Islamic Jesus is heretical, and Muslims will believe that the Christian Jesus is heretical. 





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