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Both did (and still do) great. One does better than the other and it happens to be Zelda but that does not downplay the others' success.



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zorg1000 said:

Sure, why wouldn't you be able to?

I don't want to open Pandora's box.

Cubedramirez said:

Deals make a difference, however anything other than accepting the fact that those are rare and far in between would be trying to mislead folks.

 

HZD is for all intents and purposes a sub twenty dollar game with all the DLC included competing against a 60 dollar game on a platform with around a 5th of the userbase. Forget the hair splitting, what Nintendo has done is something that developers fantasize about.

 

And Nintendo does it damn near every generation a dozen times.

As I have said previously HZD is still a new IP with Sony's 1st party that haven't release a breakout hit until HZD and you are comparing well established game to a New IP.
You are so quick to praise Nintendo while so quick in pointing out about the price and how BoTW is doing awesome..

LGBTDBZBBQ said:

Yep, the MSRP is what determines the true value of the game to the publisher

https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-switch

https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP9000-CUSA10237_00-HRZCE00000000000

Zelda BOTW despite with 60$ and 80$(DLC) price point after over a year of release still charting in NPD(without digital data), Pal-Chart, and Mediacreate while the existence of 20$(DLC included) HZD in the market chart has vanished. 

No one is disputing that and you missed CGI's point completely.
You over emphasizing how BoTW is at full price doesn't discredit HZD sales even though it is selling at $19.
We know who the winner already is, and that is BoTW. No one is going to argue about that anymore. 
You pointing out everything will not change it anymore.
In all honesty, you over emphasizing it again and again makes me wonder. Are you happy about BoTW sales? or are you just here to gloat and downplay a game?

LGBTDBZBBQ said:

Reducing a price isn't a strength or pro but a strategy to move the software.  It's weird when discussing Sales in this forum because this kind of issue always used to spin the fact into their liking. Sony would never drop the price of HZD if it sold like Zelda BOTW!

CGI-Quality said: 

None of the matters to my point, though, and your reasoning for bumping this was to gloat about Zelda. That's okay, but doesn't remove how well Horizon has done.

That's the point of this thread though, to compare the sales between two games whether it's in unit or revenue.

Yes you are right it will not continuously to sell well without price cut and yet you quickly dimissed that HZD is new IP. A new IP that stand toe to toe with an old Zelda IP. 
It's like you compare a veteran over a rookie in Basketball then you over emphasize how a veteran is doing great with Stats compare to a rookie. 



zorg1000 said:
CGI-Quality said:

Has Zelda always been full price? For example, it isn't full price on Amazon right now. In fact, I could have sworn such a notion has been debunked before. I get that people want to gloat, but perspective, as usual, is needed. 

It has had a few temporary discounts but the MSRP is still $60.

Yep. Literally every game ever released has discounts. Hell you can buy sealed copies of Spider Man on PS4 for $40 on Ebay. Random websites discounting a game at random times doesn’t change the fact that for the complete Zelda experience, the MSRP is $80. For Horizon, the MSRP is $20. Its not “gloating” or downplaying the success of Horizon to point out the large difference in price in a thread directly comparing sales between the two. Zelda is Zelda. Horizon did well too. I don’t care that it’s a new IP, it’s a massively marketed and hyped game designed for mass appeal like Far Cry games are. It was going to be successful. Just like Zelda being designed the way it was, it was clearly going to sell a lot.

Hell with their pricing, Horizon could have sold a couple million more and Zelda would have still generated more revenue. 



GoOnKid said:

Both did (and still do) great. One does better than the other and it happens to be Zelda but that does not downplay the others' success.

^ this.

zelda botw is probably over 9.5m by now.... and HZD probably over 8.5m.

Neither should feel bad about that, those are pretty great sales.



BotW is on its way to 15 million, I wouldn‘t be surprised if it sells around 20 million in the end.

One of the best games I ever played.



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LudicrousSpeed said:
Kerotan said:

As a playstation gamer that's one of the biggest pros. I can get so many top class games from say $100 because the sales are insane. If I was a Nintendo gamer I'd be unhappy with the pricing. 

Oh please. If Sony started charging $80 for their games you’d spin it as some sort of “Sony tax” for their “incredible games” and happily pay. And if Sony could still be pushing Horizon for $60, they would. There’s nothing wrong with great strength in an IP, or paying $60 for a great game.

Oh please yourself. I'm super hyped for spiderman man and rdr2 but I'll likely buy both on sale in December because pretty much every single game released on ps4 goes on sale soon after release. Its heaven for my wallet and it's one of the best things about playstation. I got the original rdr for $5 on sale a few years ago. One of the best games ever and a big seller. If that was Nintendo they'd drop the price of their title nowhere near that whether sales were still big or not. 



Kerotan said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Oh please. If Sony started charging $80 for their games you’d spin it as some sort of “Sony tax” for their “incredible games” and happily pay. And if Sony could still be pushing Horizon for $60, they would. There’s nothing wrong with great strength in an IP, or paying $60 for a great game.

Oh please yourself. I'm super hyped for spiderman man and rdr2 but I'll likely buy both on sale in December because pretty much every single game released on ps4 goes on sale soon after release. Its heaven for my wallet and it's one of the best things about playstation. I got the original rdr for $5 on sale a few years ago. One of the best games ever and a big seller. If that was Nintendo they'd drop the price of their title nowhere near that whether sales were still big or not. 

Nintendo does drop the price for games that bomb or do not sell well. That said why would you lower the price to something that sells consistently? Also there is a thing called nintendo selects that sell for much lower than msrp later during that gen.

 

Lastly ps4 hasnt dropped the price for awhile now, sony doesnt need to do a thing when it keeps selling dont you agree?



tbone51 said:
Kerotan said:

Oh please yourself. I'm super hyped for spiderman man and rdr2 but I'll likely buy both on sale in December because pretty much every single game released on ps4 goes on sale soon after release. Its heaven for my wallet and it's one of the best things about playstation. I got the original rdr for $5 on sale a few years ago. One of the best games ever and a big seller. If that was Nintendo they'd drop the price of their title nowhere near that whether sales were still big or not. 

Nintendo does drop the price for games that bomb or do not sell well. That said why would you lower the price to something that sells consistently? Also there is a thing called nintendo selects that sell for much lower than msrp later during that gen.

 

Lastly ps4 hasnt dropped the price for awhile now, sony doesnt need to do a thing when it keeps selling dont you agree?

I'm not Sony so I can't be 100% sure but I'd wager a guess they are happy with their huge profits so choose to put their games on sale soon after release whether it's a big seller or bad seller. Take god of war. That's selling really well right now. There's absolutely no need to put that on sale. It would do good at full price. Yet it's regularly on sale and got it's first price cut/sale only a few months after launch. Again if that was Nintendo they'd keep it at full price for as long as possible. It's just 2 companies with 2 different policies but there's no doubt the ps4 model is far more consumer friendly. I can buy so many more games for my money thanks to it. 



Kerotan said:
tbone51 said:

Nintendo does drop the price for games that bomb or do not sell well. That said why would you lower the price to something that sells consistently? Also there is a thing called nintendo selects that sell for much lower than msrp later during that gen.

 

Lastly ps4 hasnt dropped the price for awhile now, sony doesnt need to do a thing when it keeps selling dont you agree?

I'm not Sony so I can't be 100% sure but I'd wager a guess they are happy with their huge profits so choose to put their games on sale soon after release whether it's a big seller or bad seller. Take god of war. That's selling really well right now. There's absolutely no need to put that on sale. It would do good at full price. Yet it's regularly on sale and got it's first price cut/sale only a few months after launch. Again if that was Nintendo they'd keep it at full price for as long as possible. It's just 2 companies with 2 different policies but there's no doubt the ps4 model is far more consumer friendly. I can buy so many more games for my money thanks to it. 

When you look at it that way then yes its definelty easier on the wallet and if your patient enough to wait for a drop of price. I was going to use GoW as an example for a game that doesnt need to drop price. 

 

Nintendo can get away with it because of the longevity of its software sales tend to do. Many Evergreen sells more than new releases even if its in its 2nd/3rd/etc year. If nintendo first party software doesnt sell then they would need to cut the prices to attract more sales but it seems they do not while keeping sales more profitable

 

Like you said 2 different companies.

 

OT: HDZ and BotW are both crazy sellling games. Doesnt matter if you compare the two



I think only like for a week the price of BotW was on sale on the Eshop. Like $10 off or something. Any sales by stores, the few are by the store solely. The MSRP is still full price for Nintendo and thus they a re still making full bank on the game regardless of what the store sells it for. Wasn't Horizon also bundled at some point as well?

Point of all that is, besides selling a couple million more than Horizon, the amount of revenue that BotW brought in for Nintendo compared to Horizon for Sony is astronomically larger.