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fleischr on 15 August 2016

Here's a tough pill you PS fanboys need to swallow. Sony overhypes exclusives that have really high production value - but have average/mediocre gameplay. Examples: Killzone, Infamous, The Order 1886, No Man's Sky, Street Fighter V

Because of that - making threads of this kind just makes you look silly. There's still a lot unproven about Horizon.

If you had instead said this of God of War 4, that's something I could respectfully agree with.

 

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Ck1x on 15 August 2016

Well all I have to say is that it's pretty funny that people are saying that Horizon will beat Zelda in sales when BoTW is on 2 systems! Not only that but most WiiU exclusive games have sold more than PS4 exclusive games... Horizon will have prettier graphics and that's about it, but Zelda will easily outsell UC4 and Horizon it won't be close at all! Just look at the reception BoTW received at e3, have you guys forgotten about that already? It wasn't Horizon winning game of e3.



AZWification on 15 August 2016
Miyamotoo said:
AZWification said:

I'm not so sure about the first part. Even Skyward's Sword, which got a lot of hate, has a Metascore of 93.

I want to make same post, not to mention that Skyward Sword wasn't exactly either technically impressive game in 2011, so most likely we talking about metascore of around 95 for Zelda BotW.

Pretty much. I'd say a score in the 87-91 range seems the most likely for Horizon.



                
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COKTOE on 15 August 2016

Horizon, all fronts. Although it's been a while (Wind Waker ,which I loved BTW), I've played Zelda before. HZD will bring different elements to the table. Zelda looks great, of course,



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COKTOE on 15 August 2016
fleischr said:

Here's a tough pill you PS fanboys need to swallow. Sony overhypes exclusives that have really high production value - but have average/mediocre gameplay. Examples: Killzone, Infamous, The Order 1886, No Man's Sky, Street Fighter V

Because of that - making threads of this kind just makes you look silly. There's still a lot unproven about Horizon.

If you had instead said this of God of War 4, that's something I could respectfully agree with.

KZ and inFamous are mediocre? Ha! Ok man. I'm not sure you know what that word means. Even SF V is a dubious choice, given the criticism it has recieved has beEn largly about it's lack of content, not it's gameplay.



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kyprime on 15 August 2016

is there even a question? i mean just look at the difference http://imgur.com/a/kCCMS



kyprime on 15 August 2016
fleischr said:

Here's a tough pill you PS fanboys need to swallow. Sony overhypes exclusives that have really high production value - but have average/mediocre gameplay. Examples: Killzone, Infamous, The Order 1886, No Man's Sky, Street Fighter V

Because of that - making threads of this kind just makes you look silly. There's still a lot unproven about Horizon.

If you had instead said this of God of War 4, that's something I could respectfully agree with.

KZ/Infamous/The Order have better gameplay graphics and stories than any nintendo games in their history, and No man's sky & SFV are not Sony exclusives, take that pill yourself



KLXVER on 15 August 2016
kyprime said:
fleischr said:

Here's a tough pill you PS fanboys need to swallow. Sony overhypes exclusives that have really high production value - but have average/mediocre gameplay. Examples: Killzone, Infamous, The Order 1886, No Man's Sky, Street Fighter V

Because of that - making threads of this kind just makes you look silly. There's still a lot unproven about Horizon.

If you had instead said this of God of War 4, that's something I could respectfully agree with.

KZ/Infamous/The Order have better gameplay graphics and stories than any nintendo games in their history, and No man's sky & SFV are not Sony exclusives, take that pill yourself



Vodacixi on 15 August 2016
kyprime said:
fleischr said:

Here's a tough pill you PS fanboys need to swallow. Sony overhypes exclusives that have really high production value - but have average/mediocre gameplay. Examples: Killzone, Infamous, The Order 1886, No Man's Sky, Street Fighter V

Because of that - making threads of this kind just makes you look silly. There's still a lot unproven about Horizon.

If you had instead said this of God of War 4, that's something I could respectfully agree with.

KZ/Infamous/The Order have better gameplay graphics and stories than any nintendo games in their history



globalisateur on 15 August 2016
Nem said:

So... you are beeing extremely generous with Horizon here. There is much we still don't know and it comes from a developer that doesnt have an excellence pedigree.
But the main reason i say this is because Horizon looks like nothing more than a graphical showcase atm. All the footage we have seen so far have been battle with one giant mecha-dinossaur. This shows us simply the combat. We don't see how the world is structured, how the game flows nor how interesting the story and tasks are. From what i saw, i see a Monster Hunter repetition syndrome (having to grind mats from the same mobs equals repetition and boredom).

So yeah... i don't share any optimism about the game.

Metacritic: 

This doesn't matter. Wichever one the journalists decide to woo. The review are too biased or bought to even bother taking this into account.

Sales: 
I don't think its a no-brainer. Horizon is a new IP. If it doesnt have stellar reviews it will be a major flop and even if it does, i'm not sure how much appeal it will have in the west. Again, the developer doesnt have the name a Bioware or Bethesda has. It will be a tough sell.
Zelda U will likely sell above 2m.

So... i would say in likelyhood Zelda, but it will depend on how good and how hyped (and release window). It will be close i think.

Graphics: 

Tough call. If we go by tech, obviously horizon. But i think design is more important. I would need to see more of Zelda in action, but i think its safe to say Horizon will be a strong contender on this department.


End of the day, i will be very surprised if Horizon holds a candle to Zelda.

That's not true. They released another footage a E3 showing 8 mn of gameplay with: Stealth, how to elaborate a strategy to kill ennemies, exploration, loot, a bit of crafting, how to tame and mount a robot, dialogs with a NPC and finally another combat with a robot (not the Tyrex, another one).

http://www.gamersyde.com/news_e3_gameplay_of_horizon_zero_dawn-18007_en.html

"Graphics, tough call"?  Just watch the video, Horizon is a least one generation ahead of Zelda on everything. 

Anyways Horizon is for me the modern Zelda Ocarina of Time. It's what a modern Zelda should have being on a modern hardware. It's a new and ambitous adventure game, while recent Zelda are still the same old, same old reimagined Zeldas.