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bunchanumbers said:
JEMC said:
bunchanumbers said:
JEMC said:

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So what you're saying is that it will be like a second console that connects with the first one (I assume that it will do that through Thunderbolt or a similar kind of connexion) that connects to the first one, multiplying its capabilities. That would be more like an add-on, but I get what you mean.

And while I'm not sure that Nintendo would follow that route, I have a hard time imagining how they would sell that thing without confusing people.


Here's a link if you want to check it out. I think it could be big for Nintendo

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/12/intriguing_nintendo_patent_points_to_supplemental_computing_device_and_cloud_resources_for_a_gaming_system

Thanks for the link. So it would be a mix of an add-on and cloud computing.

That patent seems to support the idea of NX as an hybrid platform with relatively weak hardware (because of its portable nature) that, when connected to the add-on, increases its capabilities and becomes a more powerful home console.

I can see some troubles with that approach, but we'll see if this patent comes to life and if it does, how Nintendo manages to do that.


I don't think it would be a portable. Didn't they already confirm they are working on a home console? I'm leaning towards a handheld and a home console. I'm thinking that the home console will be more powerful than the PS4 and X1, and the handheld will be more powerful than the vita. I'm thinking that when you are using the handheld around the house, its possible to stream it from the console to the handheld, so you got console quality graphics and the like on the handheld. And when the time comes and the home console needs a boost, they can roll out this add on and just like that NX gets stronger and just like that there is instant longevity to stay viable when the PS5/X2 come out. At least this is how I see it.

I didn't meant that NX would be a handheld. I simply used the theory of the hybrid device that acts as both a home and a handheld console and, because of handheld side of it, it can't be too powerful as that would drain whatever battery it has in a matter of minutes.

Not that I support the theory, but I just found it fitting with this patent.

In any case, I'm quite lost on what or how NX will be, so everything is possible.



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Nintendo is doomed and there isn't much they can do unless they pull a miracle. Xbox one is selling way too fast and gaining more and more momentum.



bunchanumbers said:
JEMC said:
bunchanumbers said:
JEMC said:

...

So what you're saying is that it will be like a second console that connects with the first one (I assume that it will do that through Thunderbolt or a similar kind of connexion) that connects to the first one, multiplying its capabilities. That would be more like an add-on, but I get what you mean.

And while I'm not sure that Nintendo would follow that route, I have a hard time imagining how they would sell that thing without confusing people.


Here's a link if you want to check it out. I think it could be big for Nintendo

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/12/intriguing_nintendo_patent_points_to_supplemental_computing_device_and_cloud_resources_for_a_gaming_system

Thanks for the link. So it would be a mix of an add-on and cloud computing.

That patent seems to support the idea of NX as an hybrid platform with relatively weak hardware (because of its portable nature) that, when connected to the add-on, increases its capabilities and becomes a more powerful home console.

I can see some troubles with that approach, but we'll see if this patent comes to life and if it does, how Nintendo manages to do that.


I don't think it would be a portable. Didn't they already confirm they are working on a home console? I'm leaning towards a handheld and a home console. I'm thinking that the home console will be more powerful than the PS4 and X1, and the handheld will be more powerful than the vita. I'm thinking that when you are using the handheld around the house, its possible to stream it from the console to the handheld, so you got console quality graphics and the like on the handheld. And when the time comes and the home console needs a boost, they can roll out this add on and just like that NX gets stronger and just like that there is instant longevity to stay viable when the PS5/X2 come out. At least this is how I see it.


that sounds confusing to the average joe



xbox is weak, nintendo is weaker.

xbox may be in second, but it has definitely proven itself as a viable home for third party developers, unlike Nintendo



Snoopy said:
Nintendo is doomed and there isn't much they can do unless they pull a miracle. Xbox one is selling way too fast and gaining more and more momentum.


XBox has no momentum outside of the US market. Nintendo has more global appeal if they'd just stop making sh*tty hardware and gambling the farm on gimmicks rather than sound, appealling hardware design. 

I think they need to pivot back and acknowledge to some degree that they do need to compete head on. 

Simply handing over the entire core market to Sony and MS is just not a workable solution in my opinion, because basically your only other recourse that's left is to then bank on a gimmick miracle, and that's basically gambling. 

Microsoft CAN be beaten by Nintendo if they released a much better piece of hardware (not hard considering the XB1 was a weak piece of kit even for 2013) and make more inroads globally. 



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Snoopy said:
Nintendo is doomed and there isn't much they can do unless they pull a miracle. Xbox one is selling way too fast and gaining more and more momentum.

 

 

Do you realise that Nintendo is making money even with console that has terrible sales like Wii U!? Nintendo is well know that they can make profit from anything and they always operate with profit (they had loose just in two years in their entire history). On other hand MS with Xbox division loses more money than they earned.



Maybe is Microsoft who needs to go for the kill, and celebrate the launch of NX with discounts, sales, and crazy deals.

They have the money, and Xbox One will have a very good library when NX arrives. Maybe Microsoft sould focus on wrecking Nintendo, and buy them later. I would do it if I were Nadella.



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Miyamotoo said:
Snoopy said:
Nintendo is doomed and there isn't much they can do unless they pull a miracle. Xbox one is selling way too fast and gaining more and more momentum.

 

 

Do you realise that Nintendo is making money even with console that has terrible sales like Wii U!? Nintendo is well know that they can make profit from anything and they always operate with profit (they had loose just in two years in their entire history). On other hand MS with Xbox division loses more money than they earned.


That's what I was meaning, Nintendo lives in their own little bubble and marches to its own drummer, but they are very conservative and savvy. They know how to keep the profit going. I only worry that since the handheld market is forever changed, Nintendo is going to have to really reassess their strategy. They did marvelous with the 3DS selling a third of the DS and Wii U a tenth of the Wii and still turned around a profit. They didn't slash the Wii U price, they released the amiibo and have been very smart when and where they advertise. Still it is going to be interesting what they next move is. I already wrote a long post early to this thread. A hybrid that developers make one game for both console and handheld might be interesting - if it turns out to truly be some sort of hybrid...out of the box. 



Soundwave said:
Snoopy said:
Nintendo is doomed and there isn't much they can do unless they pull a miracle. Xbox one is selling way too fast and gaining more and more momentum.


XBox has no momentum outside of the US market. Nintendo has more global appeal if they'd just stop making sh*tty hardware and gambling the farm on gimmicks rather than sound, appealling hardware design. 

I think they need to pivot back and acknowledge to some degree that they do need to compete head on. 

Simply handing over the entire core market to Sony and MS is just not a workable solution in my opinion, because basically your only other recourse that's left is to then bank on a gimmick miracle, and that's basically gambling. 

Microsoft CAN be beaten by Nintendo if they released a much better piece of hardware (not hard considering the XB1 was a weak piece of kit even for 2013) and make more inroads globally. 

Are u sure Nintendo has more global appeal? Nintendo has always been primarily about America+Japan, Wii is the only home console to be a big success outside of those 2 regions.



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zorg1000 said:
Soundwave said:


XBox has no momentum outside of the US market. Nintendo has more global appeal if they'd just stop making sh*tty hardware and gambling the farm on gimmicks rather than sound, appealling hardware design. 

I think they need to pivot back and acknowledge to some degree that they do need to compete head on. 

Simply handing over the entire core market to Sony and MS is just not a workable solution in my opinion, because basically your only other recourse that's left is to then bank on a gimmick miracle, and that's basically gambling. 

Microsoft CAN be beaten by Nintendo if they released a much better piece of hardware (not hard considering the XB1 was a weak piece of kit even for 2013) and make more inroads globally. 

Are u sure Nintendo has more global appeal? Nintendo has always been primarily about America+Japan, Wii is the only home console to be a big success outside of those 2 regions.


France and Germany (two of three larger Euro markets) seem Nintendo friendly, France especially. Nintendo franchises are popular there. They just won't accept a crappy Nintendo console however. 

UK is a tough one for Nintendo, but they could make inroads there too if they are smart and have better hardware than XB1. 

They should consider teaming up with EA to make a FIFA-Mario crossover game (ie: sorta like the Mario Soccer series but have other popular footballers like Messi, Ronaldo, etc. as playable characters too).