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AsGryffynn on 07 December 2015
Sprash said:
AsGryffynn said:
Carl2291 said:


This, this. A thousand times this.

Japanese 3rd parties now have a healthy platform to push games on to in the West. Glory days are returning.

Someone's implying the X360 attempted to kill Japanese devs aren they?

or hes implying the ps3 killed japanse devs because it started slow and had diffifult technology to work with? No, that could not be possible it has to be a jab at microsoft? sigh.

As of lately, the mood seems to be very anti Xbox in gaming sites... people seem to complain that Nintendo should be where they are and made it sound like last gen was a disaster for Japanese devs because the Xbox 360 was on a roll...

DonFerrari said:
AsGryffynn said:


I am not ok with the idea of one company not having to compete by having a monopoly of the market, if that's what you're implying... I literally played the underdog team during the 6th gen for the same reasons I am this one...


So you choose your platform not by the games you want to play but by avoiding the games and choosing the worst seller of the gen? Crazy, and them complain that game X or Y don't reach your platform?

No. While I do feel sad if they do not arrive, I don't complain when they do not reach my platform. I am one of those "better to lack an arm than use a fake one" people...

 

Carl2291 said:

Im not implying anything.

Im directly saying that Japanese developers fucked up by banking on the Xbox 360 when the platform was DoA in Japan and the fanbases for JP games are historically with Nintendo and PlayStation platforms. Early Gen 7 saw several big name JP games miss both Wii and PS3, which were the go-to platforms in Japan (and in Wiis case, Worldwide). This led to underwhelming, poor sales for numerous big names and new IPs.

So you're saying it to my face then...

I really feel this is unwarranted. The reason the Xbox name has never sold in Japan has been because it has never been associated with JRPGs. This association would be easy to create if the Xbox consoles had a sizable catalog of Japanese LAUNCH titles since people would know that they are being served...



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rolltide101x on 07 December 2015
Chazore said:
 

Well I guess they'll never get PC money if that's their true line of thought, more for other devs that try I guess, I'll support those that do though.

You kinda need to accept that a more niche JRPG would not sell on PC dude. PC market has genres that do very well. JRPG would not be one of them



Chazore on 07 December 2015
rolltide101x said:

You kinda need to accept that a more niche JRPG would not sell on PC dude. PC market has genres that do very well. JRPG would not be one of them

JRPG's are being sold on PC though and are selling well for the devs that do sell though, there's nothing I need to accept here.



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Edwardooo on 07 December 2015
rolltide101x said:
Chazore said:
 

Well I guess they'll never get PC money if that's their true line of thought, more for other devs that try I guess, I'll support those that do though.

You kinda need to accept that a more niche JRPG would not sell on PC dude. PC market has genres that do very well. JRPG would not be one of them

Valkyria Chronicles sold 500k copies on Steam.



rolltide101x on 07 December 2015
Edwardooo said:
rolltide101x said:
Chazore said:
 

Well I guess they'll never get PC money if that's their true line of thought, more for other devs that try I guess, I'll support those that do though.

You kinda need to accept that a more niche JRPG would not sell on PC dude. PC market has genres that do very well. JRPG would not be one of them

Valkyria Chronicles sold 500k copies on Steam.

So you cherry picked and that is the best you could do? lol. Sold probably around 1.5 million on PS3....

 

It should be known I have nothing against the PC platform and game on my PC some pretty much everyday. But to say there is a healthy market for JRPG is just wrong.



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method114 on 07 December 2015
rolltide101x said:
Edwardooo said:
rolltide101x said:
Chazore said:
 

Well I guess they'll never get PC money if that's their true line of thought, more for other devs that try I guess, I'll support those that do though.

You kinda need to accept that a more niche JRPG would not sell on PC dude. PC market has genres that do very well. JRPG would not be one of them

Valkyria Chronicles sold 500k copies on Steam.

So you cherry picked and that is the best you could do? lol. Sold probably around 1.5 million on PS3....

 

It should be known I have nothing against the PC platform and game on my PC some pretty much everyday. But to say there is a healthy market for JRPG is just wrong.


Tales of Zestiria also did very well on PC. Trails in the Sky 1 also did very well. Valkyrie Chronicles did well also. All the Final Fantasy games have obviously been doing well.  Here's a quote from Falcom which makes the y's series. Basically your wrong. Does that mean every JRPG will do well? No but saying JRPG's don't do well is a flat out lie. 

Nihon Falcom: "...many titles enjoyed better sales volume on Steam then PlayStation."



Edwardooo on 07 December 2015
rolltide101x said:
Edwardooo said:
rolltide101x said:
Chazore said:
 

Well I guess they'll never get PC money if that's their true line of thought, more for other devs that try I guess, I'll support those that do though.

You kinda need to accept that a more niche JRPG would not sell on PC dude. PC market has genres that do very well. JRPG would not be one of them

Valkyria Chronicles sold 500k copies on Steam.

So you cherry picked and that is the best you could do? lol. Sold probably around 1.5 million on PS3....

 

It should be known I have nothing against the PC platform and game on my PC some pretty much everyday. But to say there is a healthy market for JRPG is just wrong.


It's a late port, and it's just the first port who pop on my mind.

If so many studios are releasing their JRPG on PC, it's not because they're selling badly, think about it.



Pavolink on 07 December 2015

So, can NNK2 and FFVIIR come to NX?



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Edwardooo on 07 December 2015
Pavolink said:
So, can NNK2 and FFVIIR come to NX?


Both of them can. I would not raise my hopes for FFVIIR but Ni No Kuni 2 isn't a unsafe bet.



OneKartVita on 07 December 2015
Chazore said:
OneKartVita said:
 


Yeah but the problem is I'm not setting up a playground fight here.  I'm just pointing out the sales on both platforms along with ps plus which gives people like me 6 free games a month and I usually want 4 of them. The bottom line that you should only focus on is backlogs are a problem and there's no point buying new games if you're not going to touch them for ages.  

 

They say a fool is easily parted with his money and I'd be a fool to get them now for a tenner instead of a fiver in a year. 

Well you kinda went with "join the dark side it's better" kind of route and I went with Master race as a literal joke (the Dr Who "The Master" even says the master race in the actual episode which was why I used that image) to which you wanted to pair both plats up as being very equal and yet hardly anything in life is, even with different platforms and sales structures they aren't really equal. I know of sales on both platforms but one is well known and has insane sales and the other only just caught onto this not long ago and still has a ways to go and is different to begin with compared to the other (which is why I'll never see them as equals due to this).

I have a sizeable backlog but leaving said games in the log for a long time doesn't bother me since I own them and they  won't vanish or go away which allows me to come to them at some point in time, I end up playing new and old games during the same weeks (Playing C&C Red Alert 2 while playing Dying Light and SW BF for example). If this was about food I'd definitely have to touch said food before it goes off and vanishes forever due to having an actual expiry date.


Sorry my bad.  I should have made it clear I think the dark side is superior to me.  The Force is definitely strong with Playstation!!