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hudsoniscool on 05 December 2015
Aragami said:
Colltrain said:
Lol its great seeing so many people getting upset by console sale numbers.....mmm congratulations Microsoft 😇


Of course a Xbonx fan does like these numbers, but yeah, they are horrible wrong.

True Number looks more like this

Ps4 - 31,5 Millions ( right now )

Xbone - 13,5 Millions ( right now )

As long MS doesnt give us real Xbone number, i know, that they not reached milestones like 15 millions or more


Lol if ur right about X1 then it has a crazy insane attach ratio. 



Halo MCC will sell 5+ million copies(including digital)

halo 5 will sell 10 million copies(including digital)

x1 will pass ps4 in USA, and UK.

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Saeko on 05 December 2015
GribbleGrunger said:
trunkswd said:

That might be true, but I'm not the one updating the hardware figures. I know Brett would want see the press release.

Everyone knows I'm STUPID when it comes to numbers but for me there's a simple workaround until we get the NPD. We know the XB1 numbers because of the increased percentages MS reported. We also know from trakcing firms that Black Friday was close but they give the nod to the PS4 by 1%. So, take those XB1 numbers ard use them for the PS4 too. Sony have said they have 70% of the European market so any numbers that don't come close to that should be given closer attention.

GribbleGrunger,

You have to think on european country, most of them don't do Black friday, so UK boost xbox one vs other parts of europe in BF week. so this should be lower than 70%. but i agree not close like this either !



Puppyroach on 05 December 2015
Aragami said:
Colltrain said:
Lol its great seeing so many people getting upset by console sale numbers.....mmm congratulations Microsoft 😇


Of course a Xbonx fan does like these numbers, but yeah, they are horrible wrong.

True Number looks more like this

Ps4 - 31,5 Millions ( right now )

Xbone - 13,5 Millions ( right now )

As long MS doesnt give us real Xbone number, i know, that they not reached milestones like 15 millions or more

So, according to you, 360 hasn't dropped anything YOY? I hope everything is comfortable under the tin foil hat :).



zealen on 05 December 2015
twintail said:
zealen said:
So PS4 couldn't win on North America? That's surprising


Whats more surprising is that you speak as if these numbers are 100% official.

 

I will wait for NPD, and if it confirms this then cool. 

I just thought numbers were released with a small margin of error that wouldn't change the overall results.

Chill dude.



binary solo on 05 December 2015
Aragami said:
Colltrain said:
Lol its great seeing so many people getting upset by console sale numbers.....mmm congratulations Microsoft 😇


Of course a Xbonx fan does like these numbers, but yeah, they are horrible wrong.

True Number looks more like this

Ps4 - 31,5 Millions ( right now )

Xbone - 13,5 Millions ( right now )

As long MS doesnt give us real Xbone number, i know, that they not reached milestones like 15 millions or more

I doubt MS will ever announce another sell through LTD for Xb one. PS4 is so far ahead that if they every announce the current LTD the only think that will do is bring out all the doom merchants. MS is avoiding definitive shipment numbers for Xb one now, so they are not likely to announce asmaller number than that. MS will only talk about YoY percentages, as long as they stay positive and performance relative to last gen.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

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WebMasterFlex on 05 December 2015

PS4 is at 31.5 million at least that's for sure. Since we show the Press Release about PS4 sold through at 30.2 million from 11/22/15.

And NPD will probably give some answer to change some numbers if PS4 won...



jason1637 on 05 December 2015
binary solo said:
jason1637 said:
Those numbers are the whole NA. so I can see x1 beating the ps4 in NA but not in the USA

Extremely unlikely that the whole 110K comes from outside the USA.

Also from the latest MS PR it looks like VGC is undertracking if indeed the 22% YoY increase is actual hardware sell through numbers.

Last year vgc has x1 at 634k bf and this year its more than 800k in NA but sold 634k in US so 22% of that put ti at around 770k in the US



fluky-nintendy on 05 December 2015

Ps4 most surely won. Either way there's no way the gap would be this big between the two.



...Let the Sony Domination continue with the PS4...
binary solo on 05 December 2015
jason1637 said:
binary solo said:
jason1637 said:
Those numbers are the whole NA. so I can see x1 beating the ps4 in NA but not in the USA

Extremely unlikely that the whole 110K comes from outside the USA.

Also from the latest MS PR it looks like VGC is undertracking if indeed the 22% YoY increase is actual hardware sell through numbers.

Last year vgc has x1 at 634k bf and this year its more than 800k in NA but sold 634k in US so 22% of that put ti at around 770k in the US


Ignore me, I keep looking at the top number instead of the second number down. My mind is playing tricks on me.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

DonFerrari on 05 December 2015
trunkswd said:
GribbleGrunger said:
trunkswd said:

That might be true, but I'm not the one updating the hardware figures. I know Brett would want see the press release.

Everyone knows I'm STUPID when it comes to numbers but for me there's a simple workaround until we get the NPD. We know the XB1 numbers because of the increased percentages MS reported. We also know from trakcing firms that Black Friday was close but they give the nod to the PS4 by 1%. So, take those XB1 numbers ard use them for the PS4 too. Sony have said they have 70% of the European market so any numbers that don't come close to that should be given closer attention.


I've passed that information onto Brett including a link to the tracking firm giving the PS4 a 1% edge. However, that report was mentioning revenue and not units sold, so it isn't 100% accurate to actual units sold. It does give us a good idea though. 


Any Idea on how long for Brett to answer?



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