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Do you think Joshua Feuerstein should be prosecuted?

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CosmicSex said:
thismeintiel said:

Great way to generalize.  Completely helps the discussion

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Now, I guess if you want, you can try to make this some big reflection on all Christians.  But just make sure you do the same for Daesh and all Muslims.

Yikes dude.  You should take your own advice.  I actually find that scary... do you even realize what you did there?

You may just want to reread that a few more times to pick up the actual point I was making.  But I will help if you can't quite find it.  Many are so quick to find an example of a so-called Christian (which for some reason makes him Conservative, as well, even though he was an Independent) to generalize Christians and Conservatives, but on the other hand will defend Muslims when there are 10s of thousands of radical ones killing every day.  In other words, if you don't do it for both groups you're a hypocrite.



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thismeintiel said:
CosmicSex said:
thismeintiel said:

Great way to generalize.  Completely helps the discussion

...

Now, I guess if you want, you can try to make this some big reflection on all Christians.  But just make sure you do the same for Daesh and all Muslims.

Yikes dude.  You should take your own advice.  I actually find that scary... do you even realize what you did there?

You may just want to reread that a few more times to pick up the actual point I was making.  But I will help if you can't quite find it.  Many are so quick to find an example of a so-called Christian (which for some reason makes him Conservative, as well, even though he was an Independent) to generalize Christians and Conservatives, but on the other hand will defend Muslims when there are 10s of thousands of radical ones killing every day.  In other words, if you don't do it for both groups you're a hypocrite.

I believe that the best way to deal with this is to be fair across the board.  I don't think its okay for anyone to be threatening anyone else's life.  But we have to be better than those who hate.  Over the last week, I saw two two gruseome videos of cops basically executing unarmed black men.  Now, I wouldn't say that all cops are bad and I'm sure most would agree.  We have to be surgical with our critisims because as you said, we don't want to generalize.  



Pristine20 said:
Amazing how people are "pro-life" but call for death and do not want to see anyone supported post-partum. This is something I would never understand about the conservative movement. In this case, my brain has reached it's limit.


don't forget how hard they try to make sure no one has access to birth control either.



Aielyn said:
outlawauron said:
Well, it's not terrorism, because he didn't do anything. If took action against others, it would be a hate crime. If he went on some sort of crusade or rampage, then it would be domestic terrorism.

By telling other people, specifically his followers, to do it, he's inciting terrorism. That makes him a terrorist leader. Osama Bin Laden didn't take action, either. He just got his followers to do so. That doesn't mean he's not a terrorist.

That's the thing. He's not in charge of anyone or anything. He just blows hot air on the internet. I'm sure there are going to be some repercussions for the video he took down, but I don't think it's terrorism. Take some time on twitter and see what people rant about when they're angry or flustered, that doesn't make them terrorists.



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outlawauron said:
That's the thing. He's not in charge of anyone or anything. He just blows hot air on the internet. I'm sure there are going to be some repercussions for the video he took down, but I don't think it's terrorism. Take some time on twitter and see what people rant about when they're angry or flustered, that doesn't make them terrorists.

You don't think he has followers? He has over 1.8 million followers on facebook, 10,000 subscribers to his youtube channel, 70k followers on instagram, 8000 followers on twitter - you don't honestly think that they're all following/subscribed to laugh at him, right? They're mostly people who listen to what he has to say, and take him seriously.

And no, he was quite clearly saying that people SHOULD be going out and killing them. Not just comments like "I'd like to see how they'd respond if..." or things like that, which are the kinds of things that non-terrorists would say if they were angry or flustered. An angry person doesn't go out and encourage everyone who will listen to go out and kill people. They might comment that they're tempted to do it themselves. But they don't tell other people to do it.

We're not talking about some random guy on youtube with a tiny following. This is a guy who has a blue tick on his facebook page because he's a "public figure" whose identity had to be certified by Facebook. When someone like that puts out a youtube video saying "go out and make those abortion providing doctors fear for their lives", people listen.



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LemonSlice said:

Planned Parenthood has always disgusted me. Their death is not that of an innocent, and considering the kind of evil they perform on a daily basis, I shall not feel sorry.

But there are always better ways. The power of reason, mercy and love must be weak, if abortions are performed so regularly still.


In case anyone was wondering, THIS is the kind of extremism that allows terrorism to flourish.



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kitler53 said:
Pristine20 said:
Amazing how people are "pro-life" but call for death and do not want to see anyone supported post-partum. This is something I would never understand about the conservative movement. In this case, my brain has reached it's limit.


don't forget how hard they try to make sure no one has access to birth control either.

How does not wanting to pay for others birth control equate to wanting to ban birth control?  Quite the leap in attempting to demonize those who don't agree with you.



The biggest problem in America now is all these domestic right-wing terrorists that the authorities seem to have big problems tracking down.



thismeintiel said:
kitler53 said:
Pristine20 said:
Amazing how people are "pro-life" but call for death and do not want to see anyone supported post-partum. This is something I would never understand about the conservative movement. In this case, my brain has reached it's limit.


don't forget how hard they try to make sure no one has access to birth control either.

How does not wanting to pay for others birth control equate to wanting to ban birth control?  Quite the leap in attempting to demonize those who don't agree with you.

A couple things.

1. There are most certainly those that wish to out right ban birth control.

2. Something being legal, and something being accessible are two different things.



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