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The prequels' writing is pretty cringe-worthy, and Episode I is absolutely worthless. It adds fucking nothing to the saga, and it's boring as hell, completely skippable. Episode II is meh as fuck, but III is honestly hated by association only (even if it still suffers from shoddy writing). All in all, it's a great movie, and it's actually better than VI (which is, imo, noticeably inferior to IV and V). The lightsaber duels were great there.


The Dookan fights on Episode II were absolutely TERRIBLE though. I'll take the Obi-Wan vs. Vader fighter of IV any day.



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The prequels have alot of issues, but battle scenes (lightsaber and otherwise) are not one of them. The prequels have the best fight scenes hands down.



You and your fiends are wrong and that's fine. When it comes to ep 3, it's considered the least terrible of the prequels but that doesn't make it a good movie.


PS: When it comes to the prequels there are no haters vs fanboys only honest people vs dishonest fanboys.



coolbeans said:
Robert_Downey_Jr. said:

and yet neither of them reach the low of acting and writing that the prequels do

Acting certainly, but writing?  There's a lot of shit, whether it be stupidity or pacing, within IM 2+3 that plummets to whatever level you're considering for the prequels if we're trying to act "objective" about this.

I feel there was bad scriptwriting in the prequels. Mainly for the dialogue, but there were also very few cohesive plot elements to drive the narrative.

It's like the main plot was more of an afterthought to showing how Anakin became Darth Vader. And Anakin's character is very under developed. His frendship with Obi Wan is developed off screen and explained in exposition. And the love story beetween him and Padme is pretty much the same way.

Btw, this guy is clearly not evil.

Nice deductive skills there, Anakin.

 



coolbeans said:
Robert_Downey_Jr. said:

and yet neither of them reach the low of acting and writing that the prequels do

Acting certainly, but writing?  There's a lot of shit, whether it be stupidity or pacing, within IM 2+3 that plummets to whatever level you're considering for the prequels if we're trying to act "objective" about this.

yes writing.  There's no sand monologue or yippies in Iron Man 2 and 3.  Also quit trying to put Iron Man 2 and 3 on the same level as each other.  2 is clearly inferior.  The only people who act like 3 is a bad film at all are the ones who are pissed at the Mandarin twist because Marvel outsmarted them and hid it from the marketing team because god forbid anyone actually conceal their twist instead of revealing it a la Terminator Genesis (not spelling it their way)



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
danasider said:


This is hilarious. And so true. Despite liking the prequel fights myself and being impressed by all the choreography, I couldn't help feel like a lot of the stuff going on screen was so unnecessary. Like Annakin and Obi-Wan constantly spinning their lightsabers like they were batons. These are weapons meant to kill the opponent, and 3/4 of the attacks looked like they would never connect even if the opponent stood still.

So even though the fights in the prequels are a lot more impressive in terms of speed, choreography and flashiness, they are silly. Which is why I can see people who enjoyed the original trilogy hating on them, not necessarily because of sheer prequel hate.

And in the OT, George Lucas saw the jedi more as samurais than ninjas or kung fu masters. He even had the jedi hold the lightsabers with two hands for the most part. It may have been slower and less flashy, but it had a lot of style. My favorite dual is between Vader and Luke in The Empire Strikes Back. It didn't need a lot of flashy moves, the fight actually made sense for the most part, and most importantly, there was a lot of emotion and even a sense of urgency on Luke's face as the terrifying monster is coming at him with both the force and the lightsaber. So much substance.

That's not to say I am some prequel hate-monger. It's called having an opinion.

Holy shit...If you replace lightsabers with Katana's, it starts too look extremely ridiculous they way they are used some times, like horribly impractical.

If you're gonna go that far. They are unpratical in a fight, to begin with. You wouldn't be doing those fancy twirls with a weapon that can cut off your own hand that easily. Ignoring the time that's wasted during the fight. You could probably shave off all those moves, and get back 5 minutes.



Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
coolbeans said:

Acting certainly, but writing?  There's a lot of shit, whether it be stupidity or pacing, within IM 2+3 that plummets to whatever level you're considering for the prequels if we're trying to act "objective" about this.

yes writing.  There's no sand monologue or yippies in Iron Man 2 and 3.  Also quit trying to put Iron Man 2 and 3 on the same level as each other.  2 is clearly inferior.  The only people who act like 3 is a bad film at all are the ones who are pissed at the Mandarin twist because Marvel outsmarted them and hid it from the marketing team because god forbid anyone actually conceal their twist instead of revealing it a la Terminator Genesis (not spelling it their way)



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star wars isnt that great a franchise for me
the acting, dilogoe and gfx aged badly for all the episodes



Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
coolbeans said:

Acting certainly, but writing?  There's a lot of shit, whether it be stupidity or pacing, within IM 2+3 that plummets to whatever level you're considering for the prequels if we're trying to act "objective" about this.

yes writing.  There's no sand monologue or yippies in Iron Man 2 and 3.  Also quit trying to put Iron Man 2 and 3 on the same level as each other.  2 is clearly inferior.  The only people who act like 3 is a bad film at all are the ones who are pissed at the Mandarin twist because Marvel outsmarted them and hid it from the marketing team because god forbid anyone actually conceal their twist instead of revealing it a la Terminator Genesis (not spelling it their way)

waste of ben kingsley and a potential reinevention of iron man

mandarin is iron man's biggest nemesis besides iron man

it was more of dissapointment for most than this "outsmarted"

not all twists are good

tony was mega dumb in the film , and the lack of decent weapons in the suit were mystifying



Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
coolbeans said:

Acting certainly, but writing?  There's a lot of shit, whether it be stupidity or pacing, within IM 2+3 that plummets to whatever level you're considering for the prequels if we're trying to act "objective" about this.

yes writing.  There's no sand monologue or yippies in Iron Man 2 and 3.  Also quit trying to put Iron Man 2 and 3 on the same level as each other.  2 is clearly inferior.  The only people who act like 3 is a bad film at all are the ones who are pissed at the Mandarin twist because Marvel outsmarted them and hid it from the marketing team because god forbid anyone actually conceal their twist instead of revealing it a la Terminator Genesis (not spelling it their way)

https://youtu.be/YNcJPxjoxF0

Luckily this one was fine by Cinemasins fans or it would have probably been muuuuch longer.



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