I have one false tooth, and that's only because I was tripped in 6th grade from jealousy for being one of the fastest runners in gym.

Now, I did aplogize for being crast, and I explained my intentions.  So that should have retified the situation.  But from your continuous posts, you seem to be taking this quite personal.  Now, you have every right to believe and think what you want.  But your actions can be been seen from "behind the keyboard" as well.  So take your own advise, and examine your own heart before you judge mine.  And don't worry about how I behave away from the keyboard.  I am who I am 24/7, and I'm not afraid to stand firm in what I believe in.

Thanks for your post. I do agree that what Brett has done with this website is really great. I also understand that everything posted on the site should be treated as an estimate and I do appreciate that the staff here are more open about this now compared to say a few years ago. 

I do still see a number of people quoting Chartz as 100% fact though which can be a bit annoying at times (especially if used against official data) and as you're aware I'd rather we have an official source to work from rather than Chartz data. 

That being said I'll try not to post something that can be perceived as inflammatory in an official sales thread again and just discuss the actual data. Apologies for dragging some of the posts earlier into an off topic area. 

And Idid apologize in general in this thread, and I'm apologizing to you specifically for responding harshly when I could have expressed myself differently.

I don't quite buy this "only 5% of explanation", because Sony has given us sold through numbers before (last time being from early march, when they gave us the 20.2 million sold through figure). Any margin of error should be calculated from the last official numbers, so this error is more like 13% (assuming a 1.3 million undertrack), not 5%.

Now you may say that 13% is honestly a respectable margin, and I'd be inclined to believe you if we hadn't gotten any other data, but when we get NPD leaks, Media Create numbers and of course shipment numbers each quarter, I'm certain that it would be possible without too much effort to reduce that margin of error down to an actual 5%, which would be really good. I mean, this undertrack shouldn't come as a surprise after the last shipment numbers we got. I agree with the rest you said though, and I massively appreciate what ioi and Machina does with the numbers, but again, like I said, I think this particular overtrack was a rather obvious one, and could have been avoided easily.

Agreed

Yeah I agree that this specific margin could have been reduced a lot with adjustments based on previous data.

However, with how the sales data itself was practically abandoned up until a Month ago, Im willing to give them the benefit of the doubt this time. Theres been a lot to catch up on.

Truly a great accomplishment indeed! Congrats to Sony!


On that note, does anyone have the figures to compare the PlayStation 2 within the same time frame as the PlayStation 4 and see how well the 4 stacks up? Thanks in advance! Much appreciated!

I fight for what's right. I'm not insulting anybody. I don't see enough people stepping in against people like you who think it's right to talk to people like you did. 

If you to take back what you said or how you said it, you should be apologising to ZhugeEX.

But haven't the sales estimate "reigns" been passed to a new user? So he's new to this, no? Shouldn't we give him a little slack? I'm just happy to be getting sales updates earlier than 6weeks after they happen. 

Ioi still does hardware. Machina leads the software side. Been supportive of the numbers, just having a little moan about the ps4 numbers