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binary solo said:
RenCutypoison said:
At some point feminists would express women freedom trough sexualisation and would have welcomed such game.
Thank you third wave feminism.

Feminists never celebrated the sexual objectification of women for male pleasure. So you really totally fail to undestand the feminist sexual revolution of the 60s and 70s.


Yap, only male like these games.



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SpokenTruth said:
Lawlight said:
SpokenTruth said:
Chris Hu said:
SpokenTruth said:
You guys actually wanted a volleyball video game?


Nah, people only buy it for the boobs.

Google.  The last 4 letters of Google are "ogle".  Why pay $60 for animated jiggly boobs when you can get that and so much more for free already?

Are you really not seeing an issue with a game not being released because of SJW backlash?

Are you really not seeing an issue with game costing $60 to ogle at that you can view and see a lot more online for free?


That is not the point, dude. I wouldn't play this game but that doesn't mean I want it basically banned in the West just because some people don't like what the game is about.



Lawlight said:
SpokenTruth said:
Lawlight said:

Google.  The last 4 letters of Google are "ogle".  Why pay $60 for animated jiggly boobs when you can get that and so much more for free already?

Are you really not seeing an issue with a game not being released because of SJW backlash?

Are you really not seeing an issue with game costing $60 to ogle at that you can view and see a lot more online for free?


That is not the point, dude. I wouldn't play this game but that doesn't mean I want it basically banned in the West just because some people don't like what the game is about.

Hyperbole, thy name is Lawlight. This game isn't even close to being banned in the west. Indeed as far as I know there has been no negative media in the west about this game, so there isn't even any active opposition to the game being releeased from the peopel you like to demonise as ruining gaming. The only media there has been is the decision KT has taken not to release it allegedly because they are afraid their might be negative publicity from some people. That's given the game far more attention in western media than any official release and marketing campaign would.



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RenCutypoison said:
binary solo said:

Feminists never celebrated the sexual objectification of women for male pleasure. So you really totally fail to undestand the feminist sexual revolution of the 60s and 70s.


Yap, only male like these games.

And you also completely fail to understand the point of my post. You're doing well today.



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SpokenTruth said:
Lawlight said:


That is not the point, dude. I wouldn't play this game but that doesn't mean I want it basically banned in the West just because some people don't like what the game is about.

When are you going to realize I was never talking about the decision by TK to not release the game overseas?

Just because I'm mocking the content of the series has no relevance whatsoever to how I feel about TK's decision.  You just completely assumed that my mockery was some form of agreement and acceptence of TK's decision.  How you drew that conclusion is beyond me.

You came in here and asked "You guys actually want a volley ball game?". How you drew that conclusion is beyond me.

And your sole issue here is that people will pay $60 to look at what is free, so, you're not mocking the content itself. In any case, the bigger concern here escaped you.





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binary solo said:
Lawlight said:


That is not the point, dude. I wouldn't play this game but that doesn't mean I want it basically banned in the West just because some people don't like what the game is about.

Hyperbole, thy name is Lawlight. This game isn't even close to being banned in the west. Indeed as far as I know there has been no negative media in the west about this game, so there isn't even any active opposition to the game being releeased from the peopel you like to demonise as ruining gaming. The only media there has been is the decision KT has taken not to release it allegedly because they are afraid their might be negative publicity from some people. That's given the game far more attention in western media than any official release and marketing campaign would.


It might as well have been banned. I know you're going to defend SJWs tooth and nail, for obvious reasons, but you're talking as if there's been no negative media on games with characters with big boobs and skimpy clothes. There's been plenty. Mortal Kombat? Street Fighter V? Dragon's Dogma? MGSV? Don't even start with this BS that SJW don't lash out at games and now we're seeing that they're even causing censorship. don't affect games.



SpokenTruth said:
Lawlight said:
SpokenTruth said:
Lawlight said:


That is not the point, dude. I wouldn't play this game but that doesn't mean I want it basically banned in the West just because some people don't like what the game is about.

When are you going to realize I was never talking about the decision by TK to not release the game overseas?

Just because I'm mocking the content of the series has no relevance whatsoever to how I feel about TK's decision.  You just completely assumed that my mockery was some form of agreement and acceptence of TK's decision.  How you drew that conclusion is beyond me.

You came in here and asked "You guys actually want a volley ball game?". How you drew that conclusion is beyond me.

And your sole issue here is that people will pay $60 to look at what is free, so, you're not mocking the content itself. In any case, the bigger concern here escaped you.

Actually, it didn't.  Look at the western sales of the series and you tell me if it's worth the trouble of localizing when sales would be poor to start but must also now consider the social climate of the regions.

Their decision to not localize the game makes sense.  They'd likely lose money and have to deal with the negative press.  All that was pretty obvious.

But given the sales of the series, apparently most people agree with my assertion that free Google is better than $60 volley ball booby physics.


The game is already releasing in English so what localisation? And digital release won't cost them a thing so the only money they're losing here is from sales.



Lawlight said:
binary solo said:

Hyperbole, thy name is Lawlight. This game isn't even close to being banned in the west. Indeed as far as I know there has been no negative media in the west about this game, so there isn't even any active opposition to the game being releeased from the peopel you like to demonise as ruining gaming. The only media there has been is the decision KT has taken not to release it allegedly because they are afraid their might be negative publicity from some people. That's given the game far more attention in western media than any official release and marketing campaign would.


It might as well have been banned. I know you're going to defend SJWs tooth and nail, for obvious reasons, but you're talking as if there's been no negative media on games with characters with big boobs and skimpy clothes. There's been plenty. Mortal Kombat? Street Fighter V? Dragon's Dogma? MGSV? Don't even start with this BS that SJW don't lash out at games and now we're seeing that they're even causing censorship. don't affect games.

Haha now you're using the c-word? What a joke. None of this comes close to a ban or censorship. This is tinhat conspiracy stuff of the most laughable sort. Is the west suddenly completely free of all gratuitous sexual content in its entertainment? You ascribe much more influence to us SJWs than actually exists. If there's profit in doing it, a company will do it, it's that simple. That's the beginning and end of it. I dunno maybe Japanese companies are genuinely scared of being criticised for sexual content in their games, because they want to cultivate a particular public image in the west. But I take a much more cynical, commercially hard-nosed view of this. And even if they want to cultivate a particular public image, it's not because of what SJWs are saying.

This is a purely commercial, profit driven decision, and a cynical move to manipulate people like you. IMO KT looked at the numbers and decided that officially releasing in the west was commercially marginal. The actual appetite for games like this is very low in the west so the cost of officially releasing in the western markets doesn't add up. It's far more profitable for the people in the west who really want this game to hunt it down and buy it from countries where it is officially released. The beauty of having a region-free platform is that you are a genuinely global marketplace and there is therefore no need to officially release a game in a market in order to get sales from that market. And if you can play on people's fears of censorship and banning you can get lots of free attention and people more determined to buy the game than they would be if the game was officially released.

Will DOAX3 sell more tin the west than it would have if the game was officially released? Probably not. Is the game going to over all be more profitable than it would be if it was being localised in the west? probably yes. Is any gamer in the west actually denied the ability to get the game, with at least an English language option available? No, if you want this game you will be able to buy it and legally import it. If the game was going to release in the west it would probably end up in the $20 bargain bin within a few months, and a lot of sales would come at a low price. This way, by not releasing the game in the west, every sale sin the west will be at a higher price.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix