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Ali_16x on 24 November 2015
Snoopy said:
bananaking21 said:

this is literally based on speculation.

for those who want to believe halo 5 magically has a 50% digital sales ratio excluding the two LE packages and the Halo 5 bundle, which all come with a digital copy, go ahead and do so. but this is based on some "analyst" and his "sources".


as for the OP. in the same article GAMESTOP says halo 5 digital sales are in line with other releases. and that it under performed at retail. but way to go at adding that. certainly not trying to spin anything.


The analyst said "We" as in the company. Also, there are sources stating this was the best-selling digital game ever in the Xbox Store for an opening week. That is better than the average 20-25 percent for sure. Here is the source. https://news.xbox.com/2015/11/04/halo-5-guardians-biggest-halo-launch-in-history/

That's not how it works. 20% of 2 million copies is 400k, 20% of 1 million copies is 200k. Obviously you could have the same digital percentage split for games but that doesn't mean the number of copies will be the same.



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bananaking21 on 24 November 2015
Snoopy said:
bananaking21 said:

this is literally based on speculation.

for those who want to believe halo 5 magically has a 50% digital sales ratio excluding the two LE packages and the Halo 5 bundle, which all come with a digital copy, go ahead and do so. but this is based on some "analyst" and his "sources".


as for the OP. in the same article GAMESTOP says halo 5 digital sales are in line with other releases. and that it under performed at retail. but way to go at adding that. certainly not trying to spin anything.


The analyst said "We" as in the company. Also, there are sources stating this was the best-selling digital game ever in the Xbox Store for an opening week. That is better than the average 20-25 percent for sure. Here is the source. https://news.xbox.com/2015/11/04/halo-5-guardians-biggest-halo-launch-in-history/


and again, the MS PR used the Digital version from the Halo Bundle, and two Limited Editions that all included a digital copy. and MS clevery used that as to promote the "best selling digital title in xbox store history".

The writing is on the wall. Halo 5 did decreased A LOT from previous Halo titles in NPD and in the UK. Gamestop says it underperfomed and that digital sales ratio is in line with other games.

the only way to say that halo has a 50% digital sales ratio is to base the conclusion on pure hope and imagination. but for those of us who live in reality, we can see the writing on the wall. 



Snoopy on 24 November 2015
Mr Puggsly said:

Well VGChartz claims Bloodborne did 1.5 million. But it apparently passed 2 million a while back with digital.

Going with that, its not crazy to believe Halo 5 could do 700K in digital numbers. But still well below the more successful Halo launches.

Bottom line, its dumb to think Halo 5 just did 1.4 million. We know digital accounts for a lot as well especially for its success with online play.


This. Even with the 20 - 25 percent digital sales it will be at about 1.8 million in its first week. Amazing numbers, not as good as Halo 3, but no Halo did as well as that. Halo Reach and Halo 4 didn't see a big drop only due to the fact they were launched on the 360 when it had at least 4 times the install base when Halo 3 launched.



Snoopy on 24 November 2015
Ali_16x said:
Snoopy said:


The analyst said "We" as in the company. Also, there are sources stating this was the best-selling digital game ever in the Xbox Store for an opening week. That is better than the average 20-25 percent for sure. Here is the source. https://news.xbox.com/2015/11/04/halo-5-guardians-biggest-halo-launch-in-history/

That's not how it works. 20% of 2 million copies is 400k, 20% of 1 million copies is 200k. Obviously you could have the same digital percentage split for games but that doesn't mean the number of copies will be the same.


Considering bigger games like COD AW release before it, not too hard to imagine game like Halo 5 doing better than the average. 



Ali_16x on 24 November 2015
Snoopy said:
Ali_16x said:

That's not how it works. 20% of 2 million copies is 400k, 20% of 1 million copies is 200k. Obviously you could have the same digital percentage split for games but that doesn't mean the number of copies will be the same.


Considering bigger games like COD AW release before it, not too hard to imagine game like Halo 5 doing better than the average. 


Except you're comparing a game that launched with 1 million Xbox Ones and a game that launched with 15 million Xbox Ones.



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bananaking21 on 24 November 2015
Mr Puggsly said:

Well VGChartz claims Bloodborne did 1.5 million. But it apparently passed 2 million a while back with digital.
Going with that, its not crazy to believe Halo 5 could do 700K in digital numbers. But still well below the more successful Halo launches.

Bottom line, its dumb to think Halo 5 just did 1.4 million. We know digital accounts for a lot as well especially for its success with online play.


im not sure if you are serious with that, or you have no other way to try support your claim and just got desperate. 



Snoopy on 24 November 2015
bananaking21 said:
Snoopy said:


The analyst said "We" as in the company. Also, there are sources stating this was the best-selling digital game ever in the Xbox Store for an opening week. That is better than the average 20-25 percent for sure. Here is the source. https://news.xbox.com/2015/11/04/halo-5-guardians-biggest-halo-launch-in-history/


and again, the MS PR used the Digital version from the Halo Bundle, and two Limited Editions that all included a digital copy. and MS clevery used that as to promote the "best selling digital title in xbox store history".

The writing is on the wall. Halo 5 did decreased A LOT from previous Halo titles in NPD and in the UK. Gamestop says it underperfomed and that digital sales ratio is in line with other games.

the only way to say that halo has a 50% digital sales ratio is to base the conclusion on pure hope and imagination. but for those of us who live in reality, we can see the writing on the wall. 

It isn't that hard to imagine considering the fact that Halo is a multiplayer centric game and again, it out did even COD AW on xbox store. That speaks volume. It could've easily sold very well digitally and more than the average game which is 20-25 percent of overall game sales. The only people who know 100 pecent sure is Microsoft. However, gamestop is still downplaying digital sales as usual because that is their competition. Their stocks took a huge hit and don't want to make it sound like digital sales are the future (which it is).



Roronaa_chan on 24 November 2015

His "source" is reading MS's misleading PR
Nope. Just no. "Let it go"



iTzCharlie on 24 November 2015

Why the biggest retail store in the world talk about digital? I don't trust Gamestop.



Mr Puggsly on 24 November 2015
bananaking21 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Well VGChartz claims Bloodborne did 1.5 million. But it apparently passed 2 million a while back with digital.
Going with that, its not crazy to believe Halo 5 could do 700K in digital numbers. But still well below the more successful Halo launches.

Bottom line, its dumb to think Halo 5 just did 1.4 million. We know digital accounts for a lot as well especially for its success with online play.


im not sure if you are serious with that, or you have no other way to try support your claim and just got desperate. 

I'm confused by your response.

Are you saying VGChartz is wrong about Bloodborne?
Are you saying Sony is lying about Bloodborne doing 2 million with digital numbers?

I'm using the information available to us.



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