I know the difference between increased revenue and profits. Halo 5 has sold just under 2m on VGcharts not including Digital. The game has sold well and has most likely made profits on software alone. Include Digital sales and another couple of years and Halo 5 will most likely have sold a very healthy number of games. Its all speculation but like  i said, i would bet my chickens Halo 5 has brought in a very healthy income to MS and 343.

And well deserved too.

I didn't say it lost money, I said it's a possibility.

And the burden is in the one that is claiming it reaped a lot of profit (even phrasing like 500M is of profits)

Quite possible very good profits, but we can't be sure, since their revenue PR have a lot of non-SW included that we don't know the cost. So it could go from they still on the loss to 30% profit and we wouldn't be able to be certain either way. On the long run with DLC and microtransactios, plus more sales I have no doubt it will reap a lot of profits.

And the person you quoted only said it was "highly unlikely" it didn't make a profit, not that it did a profit. So you are both circling the space of vague statements :).

Nope.. the original claim I was discussing and asking for proof was related to this

1.The thread isnt the problem, i like to read the news just like the next guy. Its the posters, as if there all trying to justify a games success and failure. Halo 5 is a very successful game that failed to outsell Halo 4, but its a successful brand which has made MS half a billion $$$. Thats more important then how many phyical copies a game has sold. 2.Profit is always first.  Theres no ifs and buts about it. Everytime i hear something good about a game i read comments like "They spin the news" "They lied" " Failure" etc.

I wishm i could quit my job tomorrow and work for these devs because the amnount of money they make, will put us all to shame and we are willing to justify a games success based off 1 aspect of its sales.

For the reecord, i brought the game digital like all my other friends did. Not saying digital is going to outsell its phyical versions but its not something to take lightly, i wouldnt be suprised if Halo sold 1m in digital alone.

You are talking about a console that was designed around a digital future.

Now say that it isn't implying that for certain it made several hundred millions in profit?

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7632488

Wait wait wait.... hold back the phone, did Battlefront do bad? Consumerism can work! Thank the world.

Once in a while consumer decide with their wallet

We really still doing this dance? It's time to just accept it, Halo 5 greatly underperformed. Period. And no, digital sales are not making up for it. Even at just 30%, it would set the record for the most digital sales for the entire industry (at least for consoles), which means MS would have actually given a percentage. At 50%, they would be on every news program/site, proclaiming it with megaphones.

anyone here said halo 5 did not underperform on it's launch sales compared to previous entries?

but i do not agree on your second part. ms would not share that information.

just release the digital sales data if it is really that impressive.