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Forums - Politics Discussion - Woman and children first off a sinking ship. Gender equality...?

 

Should the case be...

Let the 100 women get the... 90 24.13%
 
Let the 100 men get the l... 31 8.31%
 
Split the lifeboats 50/50 between the adults. 168 45.04%
 
Let everyone drown because I can't decide. 84 22.52%
 
Total:373
XanderXT on 25 November 2015

Being a child legally, I don't think I'd go down with the ship. However, I'd rather sacrifice my life if it meant a child would still have a father.



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Gourmet on 25 November 2015

Why isn't there a "youngers first" option? Sex doesn't matter ever since neither represent a bottleneck on reproduction anymore. The only criteria should be that those who have more life ahead of them should live.



blizzardsphere on 25 November 2015

How is this a Gender equality issue?? is not like all children are girls.



hershel_layton on 25 November 2015
Gourmet said:
Why isn't there a "youngers first" option? Sex doesn't matter ever since neither represent a bottleneck on reproduction anymore. The only criteria should be that those who have more life ahead of them should live.


young and most healthy.

 

I'm pretty sure that most of us would have trouble letting a disabled person die because of feelings, but it's not as though we can do much about it.

 

 

You know...this type of chat bothers me in general. I suppose people don't want anyone to die. It's that simple.

 

Kids will die. Women will die. Men will die. The smartest option is to invest into the future. 



 

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o_O.Q on 25 November 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:
ganoncrotch said:


Your logic only works when you are talking about cattle, you cannot talk to a human being and say that I'm letting you survive this boat sinking... because I expect you to go and re-populate the world, honestly if you are considering something like this I'd take some time away from walking dead/fallout type scenarios because those are the only times you're going to want to gather up your harem for breeding.... because it's 2015 and suggesting that a female has to be the choice made here because she (along with a male) can be bred, is sick.

Feminsm implies social and economical equality, not biological equality because there is none. The biological rules of men dont apply to women unless they have an insane amount of testosterone, nuts and a penis and vice versa for men. Yes, some women can account for a massive amount of testosterone but not nuts and a penis nor vice versa. Outside of that its gender association which is in the mind and also is affected by hormones.


but those things are not isolated as you seem to believe... our biology plays a part in both our social and economic status

it could be argued, for example, that men are driven to compete for higher positions in the work place because of their higher testosterone levels and as a result there are more male CEOs



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S.T.A.G.E. on 26 November 2015
o_O.Q said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Feminsm implies social and economical equality, not biological equality because there is none. The biological rules of men dont apply to women unless they have an insane amount of testosterone, nuts and a penis and vice versa for men. Yes, some women can account for a massive amount of testosterone but not nuts and a penis nor vice versa. Outside of that its gender association which is in the mind and also is affected by hormones.


but those things are not isolated as you seem to believe... our biology plays a part in both our social and economic status

it could be argued, for example, that men are driven to compete for higher positions in the work place because of their higher testosterone levels and as a result there are more male CEOs

I know that biology plays into our soecial and economical status, but I am a feminist, so I believe economy should find a way to address the situation. I believe that Both and women should be granted maternity leave in the most critical months post birth. Women today dont want to be left with the burden and they shouldnt be. It should be a trade off. Women back in the day had to deal with it and some would've rather had it that way but thats not all women. Ideals among women are not always shared so people must.

Also, women can have above average testosterone levels as well. That does contribute to competitiveness.Women are starting to break the glass ceiling. They have already surpassed men in Job placement and education.



Mr.Playstation on 26 November 2015
XanderXT said:
Being a child legally, I don't think I'd go down with the ship. However, I'd rather sacrifice my life if it meant a child would still have a father.

High Five for being Children ( At least legally ).



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DonFerrari on 26 November 2015
FragilE^ said:
DonFerrari said:
 


Whenever you say men are better at something because of genetic or any other reason they will call you mysognistic or that the reason is because women didn't had the support through history to do that and it's a social construction.

They them will say both genders are equal.

And then will list several things woman are better because of reasons... like if the world were run by women it would be better, women don't kill, women aren't violent and several other thins.

 

TL;DR -> Men and Women are equal unless in aspects women is superior, which equates to in all aspects (in feminazi narrative)

Slightly off topic, but I read a long aticle about females during nazi times, and how they were considered to be innocent victims of the brutal, male leaders. In reality, they were just as bad. Lots of stories and records showing how "evil deeds" had nothing to do with gender, despite what most people seem to think.

I'm not trying to start anything :P I just thought it was an interesting, and brave article (written and researched by a woman, in fact!)


I do agree with you

i was criticizing the modern Notion that giving good stats to men or bad to womam is a no-no but the opposite is good.



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DonFerrari on 26 November 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DonFerrari said:
I always like feminist saying men and women are equal or should be equal... unless in all the aspects they think women are better than men.


Pray tell...what do you mean by this? Feminism implies social and economical equality. It doesnt mean biological because there is no equality in that context. We're not the same, but we should be allowed to do similar things granted we have the ability.


Just look at the derrogatory speach of feminists and feminazi towards men and the misoginist rapists they are or how women are much better. They say they fight for equality but any positive aspect you give to a men is either fruit of centuries of patriarcal society or must be erased, but if it's women good trait than it's absolute truth.

 

if you fight for social and econômical equality what are your take on men picking marjority of dangerous jobs, dying younger but retiring later, my body my rules, and other benefits?

 

women have less interest in maths, High paying position you want to unnaturaly try and force 50/50 but on the others let give a look away



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Ganoncrotch on 26 November 2015
John2290 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

I know that biology plays into our soecial and economical status, but I am a feminist, so I believe economy should find a way to address the situation. I believe that Both and women should be granted maternity leave in the most critical months post birth. Women today dont want to be left with the burden and they shouldnt be. It should be a trade off. Women back in the day had to deal with it and some would've rather had it that way but thats not all women. Ideals among women are not always shared so people must.

Also, women can have above average testosterone levels as well. That does contribute to competitiveness.Women are starting to break the glass ceiling. They have already surpassed men in Job placement and education.

So you say the company should take a hit because someone decides to have a child. I don't think that's how business works. If you want to have kids then you should not be fighting your way up the corporate ladder, go find a job that when you want to have kids it won't impact the people you work with/for. You are putting other jobs in a slightly less secure situation. Not cool.


So no maternity leave at all then? Like how long would you allow the woman off to have her child? Here in Ireland you're allowed just 3 paid sick days in the public sector, I guess mom will just have to hope she doesn't get sick the rest of the year right?

I would hope you don't think the company should take a hit because a woman decides to have a child?



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