By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Politics Discussion - Woman and children first off a sinking ship. Gender equality...?

 

Should the case be...

Let the 100 women get the... 90 24.13%
 
Let the 100 men get the l... 31 8.31%
 
Split the lifeboats 50/50 between the adults. 168 45.04%
 
Let everyone drown because I can't decide. 84 22.52%
 
Total:373

There should probably be a general preference for children, elderly, and FAMILIES, rather than just men or women. "Women and children first" is an outdated notion. But honestly, there should be enough time and lifeboats to accommodate EVERYBODY in this day and age.



Around the Network
FragilE^ said:
John2290 said:

I've posted the OP and I'm honestly not sure if this should go on. There's no reason  to take it down but dammit I'm surprised by the responses of what I thought was an intelligent community.

Take a look at either religious threads or at a few of the threads about gay rights. I'm not surprised by these replies ^^

There are a lot of interesting question marks regarding the discussions in this thread though, things like "doing the right thing" and "being a real man".

Right thing (or real man/woman) according to who? And why? Because these things are NOT universal truths. Never have been. There is no oracle to ask, no instruction manual to refer too. These are questions everyone has to answer for themselves.

Some knuckle-draggers in here seem not to understand this very basic point. Most days humanity is barely tolerable as an intelligent species and reading through some of these responses is truly an intellectual embarrassment.

Formula:

1. Post opinion without justification.

2. Claim anyone who disagrees is [insert nonsense: e.g. not a real man, inhumane, stupid, etc]

This shit wouldn't fly in any acadmic institution on the entire planet, yet these blockheads think this is a sufficient response?



RadiantDanceMachine said:
FragilE^ said:
John2290 said:

I've posted the OP and I'm honestly not sure if this should go on. There's no reason  to take it down but dammit I'm surprised by the responses of what I thought was an intelligent community.

Take a look at either religious threads or at a few of the threads about gay rights. I'm not surprised by these replies ^^

There are a lot of interesting question marks regarding the discussions in this thread though, things like "doing the right thing" and "being a real man".

Right thing (or real man/woman) according to who? And why? Because these things are NOT universal truths. Never have been. There is no oracle to ask, no instruction manual to refer too. These are questions everyone has to answer for themselves.

Some knuckle-draggers in here seem not to understand this very basic point. Most days humanity is barely tolerable as an intelligent species and reading through some of these responses is truly an intellectual embarrassment.

Formula:

1. Post opinion without justification.

2. Claim anyone who disagrees is [insert nonsense: e.g. not a real man, inhumane, stupid, etc]

This shit wouldn't fly in any acadmic institution on the entire planet, yet these blockheads think this is a sufficient response?


I'm honestly confused by how people think there's a definite response to this question.

 

People are acting as though they'll be consciously thinking about who's who, what gender they're are, how much men/women there are, the proportion of men to women, etc etc.

 

Ridiculous. I'm sure that in the Titanic, people helped each other. Those who made it made it, and those who didn't died.



 

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

12/22/2016- Made a bet with Ganoncrotch that the first 6 months of 2017 will be worse than 2016. A poll will be made to determine the winner. Loser has to take a picture of them imitating their profile picture.

Do I have this right, there are 100 men, 100 women, and 100 children? I assume this since it says in the old days all the women and children would get the boats and 100 men would be left to drown.

Anyway, the children get on for sure. Next, would be a parent of these children (woman or man). Finally, the only way I can see others surviving is if by pairs the rest hang on to the life boats on each side to balance out (50 boats) until rescue is found.



e=mc^2

Gaming on: PS4 Pro, Switch, SNES Mini, Wii U, PC (i5-7400, GTX 1060)

I vote to let people fight for survival, no rules, only brawn.
I think is immoral to ask anyone to give his life for another's, the only moral choice is to let nature be decider and the ones that deserve survive.

In the end there can be only one, or ..... perhaps 100.



Around the Network
RadiantDanceMachine said:
FragilE^ said:
John2290 said:

I've posted the OP and I'm honestly not sure if this should go on. There's no reason  to take it down but dammit I'm surprised by the responses of what I thought was an intelligent community.

Take a look at either religious threads or at a few of the threads about gay rights. I'm not surprised by these replies ^^

There are a lot of interesting question marks regarding the discussions in this thread though, things like "doing the right thing" and "being a real man".

Right thing (or real man/woman) according to who? And why? Because these things are NOT universal truths. Never have been. There is no oracle to ask, no instruction manual to refer too. These are questions everyone has to answer for themselves.

Some knuckle-draggers in here...

This shit wouldn't fly in any acadmic institution on the entire planet,

yet these blockheads think this is a sufficient response?

Just an FYI when you're wrapping your "point" in 2 insults about intelligence it's probably best to make sure you don't typo something like that.

As for your point tho, some people hold their beliefs so strongly that they can't imagine anything else being true, say there was a thread titled "should I punch babies?" hopefully most of the replies in it would simply be "No" it doesn't need further explanation why people think that, because in their minds it shouldn't require explaning, the same thing is true of those who say that "real men would let the women live" and leave it at that, they might not feel the need to expand on it because it is as basic to them as not punching a baby.

Besides John2290 isn't asking people for a Acadmic style report with examples and references provided, this is an internet forum for knuckle-dragging blockheads!



Why not check me out on youtube and help me on the way to 2k subs over at www.youtube.com/stormcloudlive

ganoncrotch said:


Your logic only works when you are talking about cattle, you cannot talk to a human being and say that I'm letting you survive this boat sinking... because I expect you to go and re-populate the world, honestly if you are considering something like this I'd take some time away from walking dead/fallout type scenarios because those are the only times you're going to want to gather up your harem for breeding.... because it's 2015 and suggesting that a female has to be the choice made here because she (along with a male) can be bred, is sick.

Feminsm implies social and economical equality, not biological equality because there is none. The biological rules of men dont apply to women unless they have an insane amount of testosterone, nuts and a penis and vice versa for men. Yes, some women can account for a massive amount of testosterone but not nuts and a penis nor vice versa. Outside of that its gender association which is in the mind and also is affected by hormones.



hershel_layton said:


I'm honestly confused by how people think there's a definite response to this question.

 

People are acting as though they'll be consciously thinking about who's who, what gender they're are, how much men/women there are, the proportion of men to women, etc etc.

 

Ridiculous. I'm sure that in the Titanic, people helped each other. Those who made it made it, and those who didn't died.


In the days of the titanic is was women and childrens protection first. After WII women had been working in the workforce doing strenuous labor and they economy gained a large section of workers. Today Women are competing more than ever in the market with men. It wasnt those who made it made it and those who died, died. We've always had biological rules. People consider biological rules sexist even though they are quite sound.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
ganoncrotch said:


Your logic only works when you are talking about cattle, you cannot talk to a human being and say that I'm letting you survive this boat sinking... because I expect you to go and re-populate the world, honestly if you are considering something like this I'd take some time away from walking dead/fallout type scenarios because those are the only times you're going to want to gather up your harem for breeding.... because it's 2015 and suggesting that a female has to be the choice made here because she (along with a male) can be bred, is sick.

Feminsm implies social and economical equality, not biological equality because there is none. The biological rules of men dont apply to women unless they have an insane amount of testosterone, nuts and a penis and vice versa for men. Yes, some women can account for a massive amount of testosterone but not nuts and a penis nor vice versa. Outside of that its gender association which is in the mind and also is affected by hormones.

How is this related to my above post?



Why not check me out on youtube and help me on the way to 2k subs over at www.youtube.com/stormcloudlive

ganoncrotch said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Feminsm implies social and economical equality, not biological equality because there is none. The biological rules of men dont apply to women unless they have an insane amount of testosterone, nuts and a penis and vice versa for men. Yes, some women can account for a massive amount of testosterone but not nuts and a penis nor vice versa. Outside of that its gender association which is in the mind and also is affected by hormones.

How is this related to my above post?


Of course in todays world most ships have rafts for almost all of the peole on the ship (if not more), maintaining quality and equality at the same time. No need for women and children. That is the cure. What say you.....if the ship tipped like the Titanic (in the movie) and half the rafts were left? Again, this is a hypothetical. You're far away from the mainland, half of the people will have to swim and you're only close to an island. What would be your approach?