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Bold Prediction: Uncharted 4 won't be as good as Rise of the Tomb Raider (Metacritic)

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Metacritic be damned. The is the magic word: "won't be as good as".

I can see this thread necro'd once UC4 hits the market. LOL!



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RoTR already lost when it scored below 90.

Play U4 first and then decide if it's not as good, but better that RoTR.



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peterdavid12345 said:

Lmfao! Well, everything can happen tbh ;). I remember when Everybody think Fallout 4 is gonna be the best game of this year and even Decade! Too much hype can destroy the game as well... so yeah, nothing is immpossible. That's why im kinda afraid right now.

Fallout *is* currently the best game of the year :D

I dont think it will be of the decade, thats stretching it. FO4 is amazing, but it has some issues that prevent it being a modern day gaming classic, which is a shame. The base building (and assigning people to it) is just too much of a hassle.



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Madword said:
peterdavid12345 said:

Lmfao! Well, everything can happen tbh ;). I remember when Everybody think Fallout 4 is gonna be the best game of this year and even Decade! Too much hype can destroy the game as well... so yeah, nothing is immpossible. That's why im kinda afraid right now.

Fallout *is* currently the best game of the year :D

I dont think it will be of the decade, thats stretching it. FO4 is amazing, but it has some issues that prevent it being a modern day gaming classic, which is a shame. The base building (and assigning people to it) is just too much of a hassle.


On Metacritic, the top three GOTY contenders are MGS5, Witcher 3 and Bloodborne.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Madword said:

Fallout *is* currently the best game of the year :D

I dont think it will be of the decade, thats stretching it. FO4 is amazing, but it has some issues that prevent it being a modern day gaming classic, which is a shame. The base building (and assigning people to it) is just too much of a hassle.


On Metacritic, the top three GOTY contenders are MGS5, Witcher 3 and Bloodborne.

Well yeah I was talking personally..... Also I think MGS5 got a bit of a let off just because of all the Konami crap (from what I've heard about the annoying game play aspect that really didnt have an impact on the scores, I will probably get it at xmas).

If I was to pick one that wasnt FO4, then I think it would probably be W3.



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d21lewis said:
taus90 said:
Second game in the TR reboot didn't even get the same accolades compared to the second game in the uncharted series. BTW who had a better survival horror game in 2013??


In one post you say TR released after the last Unchartered. Then you turn right around and compare it to Unchartered 2?

 

The gaming media is a lot less forgiving this time around.  They don't toss out the 9s and 10s as much as they used to.

that is in terms of how it was recieved over its first game compared to RoTR over the reboot. not a direct comparison to each other. and dont worry if game is worth 9 and 10 it will get it, even in "these times" ND outscored with last of us over the reboot and UC4 will be 90 atleast Heck even the worst scoring uncharted game has scored better than best Tomb Raider game 88 and 86. ND know their shit they are competing with themselves.



Hard to tell anything before playing both games. But for me, the UC trilogy is much better than TB reboot.

I miss the old TB of the PS1/PS2 days.



hentaihinata said:

Xbox Magacine will give it a 10/100, but i expect a 94 anyways.

Dude, look at the Gameplay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL46dpNEPPA

it has multiplayer, better graphics, better directed, better story, better animations, better cutscenes, better sales 10:1,  better everything.

RoTR is a good game, but really your Post should be, WAS IT A DAMN MISTAKE TO RELEASE IT ONLY ON XBOX?.

It doesnt get the sales that deserve the game. if i am a RoTR Developer and i see my marketing team make stupid decisions like that, really i would be pissed, i did so much afford and work in it and it doesnt get the reward for it. After Uncharted 4 this game will be outdated, 1 year old game that nobody wants anymore.  Did you play The Last of Us? Dude.. i think when you finish the Game you should reconsider your post

 


Yeah.  I played TLoU.  Got it twice, actually.  Once on PS3 and again on PS4.  IWas it a year old game that nobody wanted anymore?  Because it sold really well on PS4.  TR Definitive Edition did pretty well, too.  

The thing is, I've played EVERY single Uncharted game.  Even the PS Vita game.  Drake's Fortune was the second game I got for my PS3.  I finished it before it even had trophies.  I've played TLoU.  I've played every Tomb Raider, ever (except the Gameboy games).  There's a good chance I'm wrong.  That's why I said BOLD PREDICTION.  But in the responses, people who haven't played RotTR are telling me I need to play Uncharted 4 BEFORE I make a prediction.... Uh, how does that even work?

So it's Uncharted and it's not held back by the PS3.  That's great.  

-Batman Arkham Knight wasn't held back by 7th gen hardware and it started off great and then fell apart.  Great metacritic score but the game is (imo) the worst of the series.

-inFamous Second Son wasn't held back by 7th gen hardware and it started off great.  My second PS4 game purchase (after Tomb Raider!)In my opinion, it was the worst inFamous game, ever.

-Metal Gear Solid V looked amazing.  I bought Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain on day one.  Great metacritic score but, in my opinion, the worst MGS game, ever.  And I have been playing that series since the NES.

-Halo V.  I haven't purchased it yet but people were complaining about that game as well.

 

Those are just some of the high profile examples of games that (despite reviewing well fail to deliver--IN MY OPINION).  I have more.  This gen has done a great job of getting people's hopes up and letting them down.  Naughty Dog has a fantastic track record but people who haven't played it (OR Tomb Raider) are quick to give the edge to them.  I'm deep into RotTR and I don't want to beat it.  I want it to last forever.  Uncharted 4 will probably beat it.  If it does, they will have to release something truly amazing.  If anybody can, ND can.  But no franchise is invincible.  Look at Gran Turismo.  

Bring this thread back next year.  Laugh at me or whatever.  I'll still be here.  Maybe I'll laugh with you.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
MTZehvor said:

The same can be said for any first iteration of a series on new hardware, and, far more often than not, it doesn't lead to a drastically bigger game world or adventure. Those usually come later in a console's lifetime, when the developers have a better grasp of what the hardware is capable of.


No. They had stated long ago that the PS3 hardware was holding them back. I always thought it was a bold statement, but these guys were considered magicians for putting so much into a linear single player experience. Naughty Dog should be given the benefit of the doubt given their pedigree. Unlike most other franchises Sony and Naughty Dog feel confident in their ability to create new franchises that they can let Uncharted go. The same cannot be said for their competitiors and that includes Square with Crystal Dynamics.

I think you're missing the point. The point isn't that more cannot be done with new hardware; it's that it takes time (often 4-5 years) of a console's life cycle before we see any games that are significantly "bigger" than what we had last gen. For example, Fallout 4's world, according to Bethesda, is roughly the same size as Skyrim's. The fact that Skyrim was held back by last gen hardware didn't result in a drastically bigger game when Bethesda's first 8th gen RPG came around; rather, the big jump in size (from New Vegas to Skyrim) came during the same console generation. Generally speaking, the big jumps in content only come when a developer has time to get settled in and used to the hardware.

I have absolutely no idea what the second half of the post is meant to be other than...I guess a jab at Tomb Raider...so I'll leave that to the side.



MTZehvor said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


No. They had stated long ago that the PS3 hardware was holding them back. I always thought it was a bold statement, but these guys were considered magicians for putting so much into a linear single player experience. Naughty Dog should be given the benefit of the doubt given their pedigree. Unlike most other franchises Sony and Naughty Dog feel confident in their ability to create new franchises that they can let Uncharted go. The same cannot be said for their competitiors and that includes Square with Crystal Dynamics.

I think you're missing the point. The point isn't that more cannot be done with new hardware; it's that it takes time (often 4-5 years) of a console's life cycle before we see any games that are significantly "bigger" than what we had last gen. For example, Fallout 4's world, according to Bethesda, is roughly the same size as Skyrim's. The fact that Skyrim was held back by last gen hardware didn't result in a drastically bigger game when Bethesda's first 8th gen RPG came around; rather, the big jump in size (from New Vegas to Skyrim) came during the same console generation. Generally speaking, the big jumps in content only come when a developer has time to get settled in and used to the hardware.

I have absolutely no idea what the second half of the post is meant to be other than...I guess a jab at Tomb Raider...so I'll leave that to the side.

Uncharted 3 came out in 2011......which is four years, plus a next gen console. We aren't getting a sequel to this so what we get is what we get.

The second part just meant that Sony isnt afraid to let go of particular franchises. They are quite fond of making new IP's unlike others. If you've ever listened to Yoshida, he's big on that. Its what makes them different compared to MS, Nintendo, Square and others.