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Is Nintendo finished with 3DS and Wii U after 2016?

Heck yeah!!! 182 71.37%
 
Naw mawn... 73 28.63%
 
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Cobretti2 said:

They can't survive onfirs tparty alone. Only Nintendo coe will buy it and that is a shrinking number each generation as some of us die off lol.


They kinda can and have, but the main point was that it'll do better than Wii U by default. 



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You forgot Star Fox Zero, which Miyamoto (and a small team) are helping Platinum with.



Mummelmann said:
Miyamotoo said:

How exactly you realize this in mid 2013. when in 2013. huge number of annulment Nintendo games, just look that famous Nintendo Direct from January.

This became obvious at E3 this year.


My initial thoughts in the summer of 2012 after the Wii U had been fully revealed with features was that this could go really badly and I imagined it lacking basic appeal due to its attempt at aiming at all markets at once, this is usually a terrible strategy.
It had a decent launch window but then dropped like a stone after new year's and sold way less than anyone had ever expected, I realized that my suspicions were not only likely true; it was a lot worse than I had thought and from that point on I simply assumed that Nintendo would wake up to the same realization and never truly make an effort with the thing.
No amount of software would help it, the numbers were just so insanely low, there was nothing in recent times to compare it to in home consoles.

E3 this year? No, no, way before that. This has been obvious for quite some time now, especially with Reggie's frantic "the games are coming, hold on!" shouting and his insistence that every year will be "the year of the Wii U", and then nothing happens.
If it took this long to face the facts, people simply haven't been paying attention.

For reference, here's what I had to say about the Wii U roughly half-a year before it was released:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4619667

I'd say that's a fairly good assessment of the way things turned out.

Point of OP is that Nintendo is finished with Wii U and that are focused on NX now. I dont see how could you realise that in mid 2013. when we had huge announcements in 2013. and basically no one heavy hitter was not launched yet!?



Gamemaster87 said:
They aren't that dunb to replace both at the same time. That would be economic nonsense. Deal with it. 3DS is going to be replaced next year and we have probably seen every Nintendo game for it.
Wii U successor will launch in 2017 and we'll get a ton of unannounced Wii U games until then.

That's almost fact.


What would be dumb is still trying to make games for two seperate systems. Nintendo's recent game output supports this, seeing as only the 3DS is getting any real effort.



Darwinianevolution said:
Gamemaster87 said:
They aren't that dunb to replace both at the same time. That would be economic nonsense. Deal with it. 3DS is going to be replaced next year and we have probably seen every Nintendo game for it.
Wii U successor will launch in 2017 and we'll get a ton of unannounced Wii U games until then.

That's almost fact.

Actually, I think it would be the other way around. First thing to arrive is MyNintendo and mobile games. Then, the NX home console. If the NX trully is a fusion device, the handheld part will need as much power as it can get, to work well with HC software. So one year more to improve the hardware of the handheld might help to close the gap. Also, the system that needs an inmediat successor is the WiiU, the 3DS is still doing great. It's baseline is usually between 80k-110k per week, those numbers aren't low enough to need replacement.

You realize that 3DS sales are constantly falling? This platform has no future. Even Nintendo knows that. That's why they started releasing Spin-Offs and reusing engines. They don't put a lot effort in recent 3DS games. 3DS sales will be terrible in 2016. That's why they are going to replace it first. You don't trust me? Well, in one year you will remember my words while playing on your 3DS successor ;)



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Miyamotoo said:
Mummelmann said:


My initial thoughts in the summer of 2012 after the Wii U had been fully revealed with features was that this could go really badly and I imagined it lacking basic appeal due to its attempt at aiming at all markets at once, this is usually a terrible strategy.
It had a decent launch window but then dropped like a stone after new year's and sold way less than anyone had ever expected, I realized that my suspicions were not only likely true; it was a lot worse than I had thought and from that point on I simply assumed that Nintendo would wake up to the same realization and never truly make an effort with the thing.
No amount of software would help it, the numbers were just so insanely low, there was nothing in recent times to compare it to in home consoles.

E3 this year? No, no, way before that. This has been obvious for quite some time now, especially with Reggie's frantic "the games are coming, hold on!" shouting and his insistence that every year will be "the year of the Wii U", and then nothing happens.
If it took this long to face the facts, people simply haven't been paying attention.

For reference, here's what I had to say about the Wii U roughly half-a year before it was released:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4619667

I'd say that's a fairly good assessment of the way things turned out.

Point of OP is that Nintendo is finished with Wii U and that are focused on NX now. I dont see how could you realise that in mid 2013. when we had huge announcements in 2013. and basically no one heavy hitter was not launched yet!?


Developing hardware and software takes time, with the Wii U off to such a terrible start, it was no massive leap in logic to think that Nintendo would already start shifting resources and attention towards their next console and a chance for a better beginning.
I'm not saying that they decided in mid-2013 to do this, but this was around the time it became clear to me that they would have to jump out the gate next gen and it seemed logical that they would shift their attention elsewhere instead of hammering cold iron, especially with them losing money on the Wii U still.
Were they "finished with the 8th gen" in mid-2013? Not really, but as with the Sega Dreamcast; we've seen that things can move quickly when consoles sell slowly, and the Dreamcast actually sold faster, it was not such a far-fetched conclusion for me to make at the time as one might think.



Einsam_Delphin said:
Gamemaster87 said:
They aren't that dunb to replace both at the same time. That would be economic nonsense. Deal with it. 3DS is going to be replaced next year and we have probably seen every Nintendo game for it.
Wii U successor will launch in 2017 and we'll get a ton of unannounced Wii U games until then.

That's almost fact.


What would be dumb is still trying to make games for two seperate systems. Nintendo's recent game output supports this, seeing as only the 3DS is getting any real effort.

So, according to you it would be smart to shorten your own profit and to minimalize your company size? Never read such a huge amount of nonsense. Every company tries to expand and not to get smaller and smaller. This fusion thing is definitely not happening. You will remember my words next year ;)



Gamemaster87 said:
Miyamotoo said:

No its not almost fact, all points that both 3DS and Wii U will be released next year, basically nothing points that this will not happen, and thats a fact.

I don't care for what you see pointing to a 2016 release.

You should know that Nintendo isn't a dumb company. A 2017 release for the Wii U successor is the smartest thing they can do. And if you would be smart then you would realize that it is absolutely dumb to release both the Wii U successor and the 3DS successor in the same year. Just think about it. They would have to promote both, to get people buying both and to make launch titles for both simultaneously. Nintendo hasn't the capacities to do that. That's why the 3DS sucdessor is coming first and the Wii U successor is coming after that.

Facts pointing for 2016. release, not only me.

If its same unified platform with two different devices there is no need for completely different marketing, basically they can promote both in same time. Why would people needed to buy them both, Nintendo will be happy if people choose one at launch. Launch titles will be same for both devices, that's whole point of unified platform.

And yes Nintendo has capacity for something like that, but they dont have any more capacity for launching two completely different consoles and platforms, like they were doing till now.



Jranation said:
Did you forget about Xenoblade?
Well i guess its good news for anyone (Most users here) HYPE FOR NX!!!!!!


I can't remember but is there more hype for NX then there was for the Wii U and 3DS?

 

Maybe more speculation but I'm talking hype from a consumer viewpoint.. 



bigtakilla said:
You forgot Star Fox Zero, which Miyamoto (and a small team) are helping Platinum with.

Was announced in 2014.