I remember Reggie saying that people should vote with their wallets concerning the Wii U that's what I have done (even though I owned a Wii U for a short period) I was not impressed by Nintendo's efforts.

Why does Nintendo persist in making games for a casual audience that has largely moved on to tablets and smart phones. Nintendo need to look at their successes of the past and replicate them in the present. Goldeneye 007 was a massive hit that Metroid prime never came close to.
What makes Nintendo different is its games not strange controllers or purple consoles in short aesthetic appeal is important so I hope Nintendo put some real effort into the physical design of NX so it has mass appeal rather than make another purple box

Nintendo's downfall = Nintendo's fault

Its really as simple as that.

To me it was very logical.  

I tried very hard to explain why, but all Nintendo fans could do is say that it was fine.....it was gonna do good.

How could it do "good" with so many obvious problems?

To me, any objective person could see all of the problems ( shitty internet, little 3rd party support, Wii being a fad, underpowered hardware, gamers think Nintendo is for kids, Nintendo censoring games, etc) coming a mile away and say this is bad.

Fans don't have to be blind.  Hell, I'm a fairlly hardcore fan of Playstations, but even I chastise them for their internet issues.

Again, fans don't have to be blind.

Once again though you choose to be selective on the points that were going on. Just like everyone automatically assumed that the PS3 would be an instant success coming after the PS2. People knew early on that the PS3 would be expensive and Sony said you guys would have to get two jobs if need be to buy the console. So just because you felt that you brought all of your points to every Nintendo fan (which in of itself is a ridiculous statement) was still not an indication that the WiiU wasn't going to at least sell a fraction of what the Wii sold. Nintendo fans weren't expecting the system to sell anywhere close to Wii numbers, but surely 30-40 million consoles wouldn't have been a far fetched guesstimate of where the WiiU could have sold.

30 - 40 million?   That would have been a moderate success.....somewhat like the Nintendo 64.

The Wii U can hardly outsell the Dreamcast.  It's sad.

But with the LAUNDRY LIST of things that were wrong with the Wii U, it should have been obvious.

You are arguing that the WiiU is a complete sales failure after the fact though and 30-40 million consoles would still have been considered a major sales failure in the face of the Wii. Most consider the 3ds a major flop even though it will probably go on to sell 70 million systems. So I think that most people knew the WiiU wasn't going to be as successful as the Wii was, but you seem to think that Nintendo can't change things at all before the NX comes out...

I guess what I'm saying is we understand your stance and your feelings for the company, so why do you seem so persistent to parade your point of view around even though you think the company has no value in the gaming industry.  I just don't understand gamers like you, "just play what you like" I play the games that I like and focus my energies towards that company who produces those games whether be it negative or positive. Clearly you don't like Nintendo so why does it bother you so what their fans expect of the company? There are fanatical fans on all fronts of the console scene, but they don't speak for the whole fanbase though and it's pretty naive to such. The community here, on YouTube or on N4G doesn't represent every Nintendo fan on the planet.

I sound mean towards Nintendo,  I admit that.

But it's not because I hate them.......It's because I don't want to see them die

And no offense, but your sentiment (Just wait for the NX) is exactly why they will die.

You need to be harsh, critical and deliver truth.....otherwise NX will be the last system you see from NIntendo, assuming that the NX is not a handheld.....and I'm not 100% sure that it won't be a handheld hybrid.

Holy flurking shnidt! Those are some bold, boisterous, and very wrong predictions.

I don't think nintendo fans have enabled nintendo at all. In fact, from the start, fans have told nintendo they fucked up big on the wiiu, by not buying it. What better way to say, you made a terrible mistake, then by not buying their product? Even the biggest nintendo fanboy, and yes, I am a nintendo fanboy, can't argue the massive failure the wiiu is. All we can hope is, that they can make some big changes with third party relationships, and get rid of the wiiu pad for the nx, and just make the damn thing appealing.

I doubt that alot, i love my Wii U, and has alot of fantastic games on it. and it was worth every penny in my case when i bought it on launch, but nintendo doesnt really listen to youtubers and take them into account when marketing and stuff.