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Mummelmann on 18 November 2015
UshiotheOmega said:
Mummelmann said:
How are tablets doing? They were heavily down in Nordic regions last year and laptops up again by a similar margin.


Terribly "Tablet Shipments Decline -12.6% in the Third Quarter" http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS25989015


So the trend continues. I never saw the use for tablets, guess the rest of the world is coming around to the same conclusion, I don't really see many people carrying them any longer.
Between owning a laptop and a smartphone, I just can't see a single reason for owning a tablet.
That said, I'm pretty keen on getting a Kindle for e-books, they're better suited for reading than tablets and much, much cheaper (and I don't have a lot of space for books at my place).



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UshiotheOmega on 18 November 2015
binary solo said:
Lawlight said:
Is Android is still buggy as hell?

There are only 2 reasons for this post:

 

  1. ignorance
  2. baiting

 

Which one is it?

In terms of WP I am somewhat surprised unless this data doesn't include businesses. I know a lot of businesses and government departments use WP as their main phone OS, basically because their whole IT platform is windows based and it makes sense to integrate phones and tablets into the windows echosystem. only 6-ish million WP phones across consumers and business is very low. So either the consumer market for WP is actually dead, or business phone purchases are not being counted.

I have a WP for work and an Android for my personal phone. There's nothing wrong with WP, but there's also nothing that makes me think I would be better off with WP as my personal phone. And as a matter of personal preference I don't like the WP UI, even though it is functionally fine.

 

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/11/new-type-of-auto-rooting-android-adware-is-nearly-impossible-to-remove/

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/10/android-adware-wields-potent-root-exploits-to-gain-permanent-foothold/

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/07/950-million-android-phones-can-be-hijacked-by-malicious-text-messages/

http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/07/new-vulnerability-can-put-android-phones-into-permanent-vegetative-state/

 

It just goes on and on.



UshiotheOmega on 18 November 2015
Mummelmann said:
UshiotheOmega said:


Terribly "Tablet Shipments Decline -12.6% in the Third Quarter" http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS25989015


So the trend continues. I never saw the use for tablets, guess the rest of the world is coming around to the same conclusion, I don't really see many people carrying them any longer.
Between owning a laptop and a smartphone, I just can't see a single reason for owning a tablet.
That said, I'm pretty keen on getting a Kindle for e-books, they're better suited for reading than tablets and much, much cheaper (and I don't have a lot of space for books at my place).


Well it was inevitable, the ipad came out when 4inch screens where the big smartphones so a tablet made some sense but today with 4.7inch screens considered the small ones and 5inch-6inch+ screens readily available a tablet makes little sense.



LurkerJ on 18 November 2015
Mummelmann said:
UshiotheOmega said:


Terribly "Tablet Shipments Decline -12.6% in the Third Quarter" http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS25989015


So the trend continues. I never saw the use for tablets, guess the rest of the world is coming around to the same conclusion, I don't really see many people carrying them any longer.
Between owning a laptop and a smartphone, I just can't see a single reason for owning a tablet.
That said, I'm pretty keen on getting a Kindle for e-books, they're better suited for reading than tablets and much, much cheaper (and I don't have a lot of space for books at my place).

Tablet sales are cannibalized mainly by phablets. Why buy an iPad mini when you can buy an iPhone 6 plus. 



binary solo on 18 November 2015

A lot of people have realised that they actually want / need a physical keyboard with their tablet. So people are going for ultrabooks and hybrids rather than pure tablets. I reckon Surface pro is probably benefitting here but whether it's sales are tracked under tablets or hybrids I don't know. For sure everyone I know who has a surface has the keyboard permanently attached.

Personally I don't see the point of having a tablet with keyboard attached when you're paying a much higher price compared to a straight laptop with the same specs, and all you're getting is less memory and a touchscreen.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

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OneKartVita on 18 November 2015

Why buy a tablet when my Xperia z3 can do anything I'd want a tablet to do.

Tablets future lies as a service device. So stuck to my fridge so I can control or attached to the car dashboard etc etc.

Smartphones are going to keep increasing every year for a long time. Global population increase and people becoming wealthier are the main reasons.

Ouch at the WP stat. Anybody any idea when they'll bottom out and start to grow? I don't see why MS didn't just go with android.



LurkerJ on 18 November 2015
binary solo said:
Lawlight said:
Is Android is still buggy as hell?

There are only 2 reasons for this post:

 

  1. ignorance
  2. baiting

 

Which one is it?

In terms of WP I am somewhat surprised unless this data doesn't include businesses. I know a lot of businesses and government departments use WP as their main phone OS, basically because their whole IT platform is windows based and it makes sense to integrate phones and tablets into the windows echosystem. only 6-ish million WP phones across consumers and business is very low. So either the consumer market for WP is actually dead, or business phone purchases are not being counted.

I have a WP for work and an Android for my personal phone. There's nothing wrong with WP, but there's also nothing that makes me think I would be better off with WP as my personal phone. And as a matter of personal preference I don't like the WP UI, even though it is functionally fine.

http://www.informationweek.com/mobile/mobile-business/iphone-still-owns-the-enterprise-byod-market/a/d-id/1320361



binary solo on 18 November 2015
OneKartVita said:
Why buy a tablet when my Xperia z3 can do anything I'd want a tablet to do.

Tablets future lies as a service device. So stuck to my fridge so I can control or attached to the car dashboard etc etc.

Smartphones are going to keep increasing every year for a long time. Global population increase and people becoming wealthier are the main reasons.

Ouch at the WP stat. Anybody any idea when they'll bottom out and start to grow? I don't see why MS didn't just go with android.

Android is based on Linux and in the PC space Linux wants to destroy Windows. Why would MS ever do anything to give Linux a sniff at threatening its main source of revenue? You could say that a big reason for MS to go into smartphones was a defensive strategy against Android. It might have worked better if they hadn't gone all in with a phone company that had completely lost its mojo.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

OneKartVita on 18 November 2015
binary solo said:
OneKartVita said:
Why buy a tablet when my Xperia z3 can do anything I'd want a tablet to do.

Tablets future lies as a service device. So stuck to my fridge so I can control or attached to the car dashboard etc etc.

Smartphones are going to keep increasing every year for a long time. Global population increase and people becoming wealthier are the main reasons.

Ouch at the WP stat. Anybody any idea when they'll bottom out and start to grow? I don't see why MS didn't just go with android.

Android is based on Linux and in the PC space Linux wants to destroy Windows. Why would MS ever do anything to give Linux a sniff at threatening its main source of revenue? You could say that a big reason for MS to go into smartphones was a defensive strategy against Android. It might have worked better if they hadn't gone all in with a phone company that had completely lost its mojo.


Why not ios then?