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LudicrousSpeed said:
Ruler said:

not really because they update it. You would always be able to find PS4s with this system software update in them and even the updates themself can be saved on USB sticks and probably copied

Oh, ok. Well since we're pulling nonsense out of our booties, then no matter what 360 game you wanna play you'll always be able to find an Xbone in 200 years that already had it downloaded from some previous owner. Glad I could clear that up for you.


Yeah if you have fun tracking down and storing multiple Xboxes for each indevidual game



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Ruler said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Ruler said:

not really because they update it. You would always be able to find PS4s with this system software update in them and even the updates themself can be saved on USB sticks and probably copied

Oh, ok. Well since we're pulling nonsense out of our booties, then no matter what 360 game you wanna play you'll always be able to find an Xbone in 200 years that already had it downloaded from some previous owner. Glad I could clear that up for you.


Yeah if you have fun tracking down and storing multiple Xboxes for each indevidual game

No no friend, in our make believe reality we're creating for this discussion, the Xbone you buy in 41 years will have been owned by someone who installed every single compatible 360 game. Congratulations, what a find!



LivingMetal said:
DJEVOLVE said:
LivingMetal said:
 


Did you "forgive" the PS3? I've been on this site for five years now and current gen has only been around for two.  Think carefully before you answer.

Sony fugged me on many products, it was there PS2 that had a failure rate worse than Xbox 360 that they covered up. Also there Flat screens they woudn't fix, they cost me a lot of money with faulty products. XBox 360 spent a billion dollars backing their mistake, which i got a new Xbox 360 free of charge, with no wait. MS backs their products, sony doesn't. This doesn't include friends having major issues with them too.  So my reason for not liking Sony is legit, Everyone else that wouldn't even buy Xbox or even effected by anything they have done is a joke. Xbox announced DRM and scraped it. It never hurt anyone, it didn't cost anyone no money. It was just a bad Idea. Simple as that but this site is full of people who want to have a problem with xbox and if they can't find one, they make one up or go back to past events, they just keep it going non-stop.

 

MS could hand out a 1,000 dollars to the poor and this sites members would spin it as the worst thing that has happened ever, they are buying off the poor etc.. it has got pathetic and why I don't much come here anymore.

Of the plethora of Sony products I've bought, hardly any have given me any major problems which isn't even my point.  You can hark on the lack of quality of Sony products from your standpoint all day.  But what I've seen coming from you over and over and over again since I've joined these forums is that you try to downplay anything positive coming from the PlayStation camp as long as I can remember.  There is a positive reason why the PSOne and PS2 were as successful as they were.  There is a positive reason why the PS3 made its come back the way it did.  And there is a positive reason why the PlayStation4 is kicking ass and taking names.  So it doesn't matter what experience you had with past Sony products.  What you claim to be potential spin is no different in principle than how you've behaved on these forums in regards to PlayStation.  And that's your choice, but don't blame anyone for not cutting Microsoft some slack when you have yet to "forgive" Sony.  You haven't came back here in a while because you cannot handle the truth which is the success of PlayStation and the expression of it.  Now that's pathetic.

However I'm never in a Sony thread, Why do you always end up in Xbox One dicussions?

Also I have every reason to not like Sony, I have been saying this for years and why Sony's other products are losing so much money. I drive Semi's for a living and the first few years where spent moving people, so you get to know how people feel about products and it's reflected in their losses as a company. I haven't come back here because I have a life, the fact that some people don't........ :(

I dislike Sony for how they handled customer service in the past and didn't back their product. Playstation is successful, however name one other sector that is? you can't and  That's because people identify Sony as having faulty products, besides their gaming system.  Ms on the other hand is making money hand over fist. 

raging out about sales is great but I'm over here playing a shit ton of games, yet another reason why I haven't been at this site. However I can see with a lack of games how coming here everyday might be the thing to do. Constanlty going to MS Threads and talking up sales rather than actual games. However you have a nice holiday season, Mine is full of block buster games.

I advice everyone to pick up a Xbox One, You may not be able to pound your chest about sales but you can play some bad ass games.

p.s. Glad you didn't have any Sony products break but when they do, that's the problem I had.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Aeolus451 said:
MS tried to completely change gaming into a anti-consumer quagmire that probably would have destroyed the console gaming market later on. Just because they couldn't pull it off, doesn't change the fact that they "tried" to. So no, I sure as hell won't cut 'em any slack on it but others (mainly americans) already have. I'll be more open to the next MS console but we'll see.


Much like the PS3....its the losers who had power who fight to gain their power back. Microsoft is swinging for the fences with offerings. 


To each their own then. I have to disagree on "the offerings". Where's the japanese game or rpgs? I don't care for sports games or for many shooters (I do like some). Please... don't try to say fallout 4. It's a multiplatform rpg.  Anyway, MS hasn't done anything so far to make up for their failed attempt with that anti-consumer crap. MS tried to fuck gamers over. That's not as simple to make up for as just overpricing their console and changing the price to fix that. So far, MS has backpedaled on almost everything, the usual games being released and a very limited BC which was probably implemented to compete more against the PS4 than to make up for anything. For me, that's damn sure not enough to make up for anything. I won't forgive and forget just over a few games.



Ignoring/forgiving their original intentions and horrible pr makes no difference! You can forgive them all you want they are still stuck with the choices they've made.

Answer me this; presented with the choice why should I chose them over Sony?

First off, why should I settle for inferior multiplats? They chose to go the media route and made hardware with that in mind. All the turn arounds in the world don't change that fact. At the end of the day they are stuck with hardware designed for a different functionality. As a result it is weaker hardware! I don't know about anyone else but I refuse to buy inferior versions of games! Why should I?

And second, why should I settle for a less diverse library of games? Currently the PS4 just has an enormous advantage as far as exclusives go. Anyone saying otherwise is not looking at the full list of exclusives (it's not even close anymore). And it's library is also much much much more diverse. The list of exclusives is just enormously in Sony's favor. And again, forgiveness or not, this is Microsoft's doing! They're the ones who choose to push the Halo, Gears, Forza trifecta at us year after year (all great games but were is the new big IPs), and they are the ones that put in place the horrible parity clause (do you know how many great small to mid tier games x-box players are missing out on because of this shit).

Look don't get me wrong, the One is not a bad systme. It's just not as good of a system as PS4. If your best friends play on x-box you should get it instead of ps4, and if your favorite game is Halo you should get one instead of ps4. But for the rest of us I just don't see it. At this point the X-box feels more like a second console used for exclusives (a few times a year event system like all of Nintendo's). Or maybe the kind you pick up toward the end of a console cycle with a bunch of games to get caught up.

Personally, I have every system know to man (like all of them), because I'm can never seem to let myself miss out on exclusives. Sunset, Ori, gears, quantum break, you will be mine! For these games the One has been 'forgiven', but I will be waiting until it super bargain priced before I pick it up.



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DJEVOLVE said:
LivingMetal said:
DJEVOLVE said:
LivingMetal said:
 


Did you "forgive" the PS3? I've been on this site for five years now and current gen has only been around for two.  Think carefully before you answer.

Sony fugged me on many products, it was there PS2 that had a failure rate worse than Xbox 360 that they covered up. Also there Flat screens they woudn't fix, they cost me a lot of money with faulty products. XBox 360 spent a billion dollars backing their mistake, which i got a new Xbox 360 free of charge, with no wait. MS backs their products, sony doesn't. This doesn't include friends having major issues with them too.  So my reason for not liking Sony is legit, Everyone else that wouldn't even buy Xbox or even effected by anything they have done is a joke. Xbox announced DRM and scraped it. It never hurt anyone, it didn't cost anyone no money. It was just a bad Idea. Simple as that but this site is full of people who want to have a problem with xbox and if they can't find one, they make one up or go back to past events, they just keep it going non-stop.

 

MS could hand out a 1,000 dollars to the poor and this sites members would spin it as the worst thing that has happened ever, they are buying off the poor etc.. it has got pathetic and why I don't much come here anymore.

Of the plethora of Sony products I've bought, hardly any have given me any major problems which isn't even my point.  You can hark on the lack of quality of Sony products from your standpoint all day.  But what I've seen coming from you over and over and over again since I've joined these forums is that you try to downplay anything positive coming from the PlayStation camp as long as I can remember.  There is a positive reason why the PSOne and PS2 were as successful as they were.  There is a positive reason why the PS3 made its come back the way it did.  And there is a positive reason why the PlayStation4 is kicking ass and taking names.  So it doesn't matter what experience you had with past Sony products.  What you claim to be potential spin is no different in principle than how you've behaved on these forums in regards to PlayStation.  And that's your choice, but don't blame anyone for not cutting Microsoft some slack when you have yet to "forgive" Sony.  You haven't came back here in a while because you cannot handle the truth which is the success of PlayStation and the expression of it.  Now that's pathetic.

However I'm never in a Sony thread, Why do you always end up in Xbox One dicussions?

.........


Maybe it's because I'm a gamer???



Well,  at least they're trying hard to right their wrongs.  So yeah, I guess we could cut them some slack.



LudicrousSpeed said:
Ruler said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Ruler said:

not really because they update it. You would always be able to find PS4s with this system software update in them and even the updates themself can be saved on USB sticks and probably copied

Oh, ok. Well since we're pulling nonsense out of our booties, then no matter what 360 game you wanna play you'll always be able to find an Xbone in 200 years that already had it downloaded from some previous owner. Glad I could clear that up for you.


Yeah if you have fun tracking down and storing multiple Xboxes for each indevidual game

No no friend, in our make believe reality we're creating for this discussion, the Xbone you buy in 41 years will have been owned by someone who installed every single compatible 360 game. Congratulations, what a find!

Sony themselfs put the latest systemsoftware avaible, you can save system software to usb stick and copy it how much you want..



Aeolus451 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Much like the PS3....its the losers who had power who fight to gain their power back. Microsoft is swinging for the fences with offerings. 


To each their own then. I have to disagree on "the offerings". Where's the japanese game or rpgs? I don't care for sports games or for many shooters (I do like some). Please... don't try to say fallout 4. It's a multiplatform rpg.  Anyway, MS hasn't done anything so far to make up for their failed attempt with that anti-consumer crap. MS tried to fuck gamers over. That's not as simple to make up for as just overpricing their console and changing the price to fix that. So far, MS has backpedaled on almost everything, the usual games being released and a very limited BC which was probably implemented to compete more against the PS4 than to make up for anything. For me, that's damn sure not enough to make up for anything. I won't forgive and forget just over a few games.


Sony is guaranteed to have superior RPG's because they have Japan on lockdown. Theres nothing Microsoft can do about this. Sony also takes the lionshare of the third party exclusives. If you value those games you're not at a loss with Sony. With FPS you're definitely at a loss, but not third person shooters. Its smarter to just own both consoles because like myself, I havent felt screwed once all gen because I covered myself.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Aeolus451 said:


To each their own then. I have to disagree on "the offerings". Where's the japanese game or rpgs? I don't care for sports games or for many shooters (I do like some). Please... don't try to say fallout 4. It's a multiplatform rpg.  Anyway, MS hasn't done anything so far to make up for their failed attempt with that anti-consumer crap. MS tried to fuck gamers over. That's not as simple to make up for as just overpricing their console and changing the price to fix that. So far, MS has backpedaled on almost everything, the usual games being released and a very limited BC which was probably implemented to compete more against the PS4 than to make up for anything. For me, that's damn sure not enough to make up for anything. I won't forgive and forget just over a few games.


Sony is guaranteed to have superior RPG's because they have Japan on lockdown. Theres nothing Microsoft can do about this. Sony also takes the lionshare of the third party exclusives. If you value those games you're not at a loss with Sony. With FPS you're definitely at a loss, but not third person shooters. Its smarter to just own both consoles because like myself, I havent felt screwed once all gen because I covered myself.

How are you at a loss with FPS ? other then Halo and the last one was worst of the franchsie.  

True but as owning both i relly feel it was pointless, MS has not offred anything truely must play this gen.  Last gen they sure did and did it early on.  But after two years of X1 ownership i sadly see it was mostly pointless.  H5 was the straw that broke the camels back, was expecting an epic war drama based of their advertisments.  What i got was a destiny sized dissapointment.  

Gears better be phenominal, and would kill them to make a spin offf thats story driven HAlo, the universe is so full of stories yet the games are so barren its weird actually.  

Adding my wiiu experience and even PS4 kinda being underwhelming, honestly really this gen has actually been rather weak.  Huh if you think about it its just an extension of 7th gen, really lacking its own games to define it.  I have hope for 2016, maybe Vr might be the 8th gen defining experience.