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Zackasaurus-rex on 15 November 2015

Why the hell are you on a shitty site like Right Wing News?



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binary solo on 15 November 2015

Since ISIL is in about 200 locations throughout Iraq and Syria to be effective Russia would need to turn both countries into nuclear wastelands, and several other countries downwind from Syria and Iraq. If they just lob one nuke at a specific concentration of ISILites that will have little effect on ISIL, but a huge effect on everyone else.

Remember, these people are not merely willing to kill for their cause, they are willing to die. So killing a few ISILites is not going to make them have a rethink about what they're doing.



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Danman27 on 15 November 2015

good luck nuking ISIS, and killing tons of innocent people that aren't even involved in the situation.



Chris Hu on 15 November 2015

Rightwingnews sounds creditable (LOL :) ).



tiffac on 15 November 2015

I don't think his allies meaning Syria and Iran would like to have a nuclear Fallout in thier backyard.



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Nem on 15 November 2015
melbye said:
Not really a good idea, if they did that chances are that every ISIS-cell in Europe and the US would retaliate,


For that they would come out of hiding and be easier to intercept.

Really, i don't see why not. There will be casuslties, but at least the issue gets finally solved. Also, it sends a powerful message.



Lawlight on 15 November 2015

The west should stay out of the middle-east. Let them sort things out by themselves even if it means another 1000 years of war.



gamingpotato7 on 15 November 2015
Dulfite said:
Zekkyou said:
Dulfite said:
Zekkyou said:
Never going to happen. Absolutely no developed nation wants to set a post-WW2 precedent for the aggressive use of nukes. Even ignoring that though, it would just make the situation worse. A lot of ISIS's propaganda revolves around painting the rest of the world as evil, and a nuke (and all the innocent deaths it would likely entail) would be a very effective way of convincing people in the region that they're right.


Russia isn't and doesn't consider itself Western. It doesn't focus on global ramifcations or perception. It marches to the beat of its own drum like it has for hundreds of years and like the people that have lived in that area for thousands of years. They were hit, now they want to hit back hard. I'd be stunned if Putin was even thinking about or concerned with how a response like this will impact the muslisms perception of the west. I doubt they care.

I never mentioned the west, i said developed. And of course Russia cares. Their relationship with other developed nations might be somewhat strained (and they have a tendency to see how far they can push the rules, as with China), but they are fully aware of the economic strain the rest of the world is capable of putting on any country that's dependent on the global economy (which Russia is). There are few things that would actually get the world to do something like that, because the rest of the world doesn't want to make a true enemy of Russia anymore than Russia does everyone else, but the aggressive use of a nuke would all but guarantee such a response.

And of course they care about how the people of the affected region would view them. What's the point in 'hitting hard' if all you accomplish is making your enemy stronger, and pissing off the entire world. Russia might like to see how far it can push the rules, but they aren't stupid.

Outside of ISIS acquiring and using nukes themselves (or something equally deadly/dramatic), the world will never be scared or angry enough to allow the use of nukes by a developed country without significant ramifications, both internally and externally. Quite rightly so.


Ok, again not speaking from my own perspective but rather identifying other perspectives, but I seriously doubt the world would be mad at Russia if they nuked ISIS. I can't tell you how many times I've heard people I know say "we should all just nuke the muslism and wipe them out since they just want to kill each other and the rest of us." I hear people saying this over and over again because of their attacks. Again, I don't agree with that mentality as a Christian (I'd rather people live to hopefully turn their lives to Christ), but it is one I see and hear a lot from people. This leads me to believe that if Russia did nuke ISIS, most (imo) would not complain because it's what a lot/the majority of people in the "developed world" would want in the first place, but are too moderate to suggest it.

The people in that region already hate the rest of us. Even if developed nations didn't do anything in their countries to tick them off, the islamic religion calls us all infidels. Muhammad marched and slaughtered his enemies and possibly raped people, whose the founding pillar of their religion. That isn't peaceful sounding at all. I don't want muslims to die (I want them to live and believe in Jesus), but a lot of people probably think our lives would be better off without people that are brainwashed by groups like ISIS, Al Queda, El Shabob (I don't care if I spell it incorrectly as they don't deserve to have my concern on spelling) and islamic theocracatic nations to hate and kill us.

I'm confident that if the islamic extremist could use a nuke, they would, without a doubt.

You sound like an extremist.



nanarchy on 15 November 2015
padib said:
X1Gates said:


Woo easy there fella, the op did not ask for Common sense. So it would be great if you could keep some of that common sense to yourself thank you very much. 


Or the use of terms like tinfoil hat: not constructive.

really? what possible constructive comment could you say about that article? tinfoil hat is rather mild given its content.



nanarchy on 15 November 2015
padib said:
nanarchy said:

really? what possible constructive comment could you say about that article? tinfoil hat is rather mild given its content.

Many constructive posts have already been made showing skepticism of the source. Just read them for examples. Avoid using labels and caricatures that don't help mutual understanding.

normally I wouldn't, but that story is so dumb it really does take a special sort of person to see any truth in it.