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Forums - Sales Discussion - October 2015 NPD Thread! Everything is in the OP!

This NPD was all kinds of bad signs
Last year 400 PS4 with no notable release (US ignored Driveclub) sold as much as 350 x1 with Halo 5 and more than 350 ps4 with NDC.
Overall HW numbers are lower than they should be when the two main systems are 50 dollars cheaper than they were 1 year before and also had a better SW schedule for the month.
All games/IPs seemingly in decline.
If November doesn't bounce back with some smashing numbers, I can see the proponents of the "front loaded theory" slowly gaining ground... I know it looks good for the PS4 with the new bundle pre orders but we still gotta see the receipts.



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Tachikoma said:
ethomaz said:

I told you Smeags that Halo 5 flopped.

It is dad.

You know what, I'm done with your shit.

You aren't getting moderated but I am now imposing a ban on all future posts by you, you are hereby banned from mentioning anything to do with the Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One or the Xbox version of any game, and any Xbox exclusive, even if done respectfully, and even if you try to skirt the rules by using implication rather than direct reference.

If you make a single post in future that breaks the terms of this ban, you win yourself a moderation, regardless of how badly you break the rule imposed on you.

You have extensively demonstrated that you are unable to approach discussions involving any Xbox platform without turning it in to some kind of mudslinging competition and frankly, i'm fucking sick of it.

I'll be PM'ing you this message so you can't play the "i didnt see the post" later down the line, too.

People are getting far too comfortable with trolling and baiting the Xbox community on this site, it's about time that ended.

As a Playstation fan i have to agree with your decision. He really had it coming for a while now.

I do remember the same situation reversed, a few years ago, when people got so comfortable trolling the PS3 it was awful. We would have needed someone like you back then to set an example.



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

Protendo said:
jlmurph2 said:


Then why bring it up here?

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7592808

Are you serious? I can't tell if your being sarcastic.


Yeah I am. You bring up social media stats in threads whether it's US only or not. I can't try and connect it to the PS4 being pre-ordered for November instead of bought in October?

Edit: I'll calm down on the replies now.



Wow, really bad numbers for the beginning of the holiday season. But then again, this entire holiday season seems very empty to me. There are a few high profile games, but it just seems to me that previous years were more packed with must have titles.
Hopefully Fallout, CoD and Star Wars can do their magic, at least with Black Friday all companies can put in a "huge % increase" in their next NPD.

Kudos to VGC, they hit XOne numbers almost spot-on, good tracking. My guess is that PS4 numbers got missed because they expected a price cut to give them a small boost, and instead it dropped almost 10% from last year. Tough to estimate that.
I wonder why Nintendo didn't put out any statements, they are usually very fair and give us a lot of numbers. Could it be that they succumbed to this overall slowdown as well?



jlmurph2 said:
Protendo said:

Are you serious? I can't tell if your being sarcastic.


Yeah I am. You bring up social media stats in threads whether it's US only or not. I can't try and connect it to the PS4 being pre-ordered for November instead of bought in October?


It's simple. US is the majority of Halo's market. If Halo failed on social media (notice I didn't say the Xbox One fizzled) then it's obvious that Halo would fizzle in the US as that's what would generate the majority of the interest on social media for the title. 

I am suprised you couldn't figure that out. You obviously are going off the deep end in this thread, so this will be my last response to you in this thread.



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Ruler said:
Teeqoz said:


VGC numbers are wrong. NPD says the PS4 did 274k this month. Either way, it's below the XBO's 304k, and even if the PS4 sold 303k, that would only be 6k up YoY, which is still awful imo.


I dont see this 274k number, not in the news or in OPs first post


Maybe you should read the OP again then. It's right there near the top.



It's simple look this thread http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=209343 and tell me again that everyone was calling an xbox victory smh



Protendo said:
jlmurph2 said:


Yeah I am. You bring up social media stats in threads whether it's US only or not. I can't try and connect it to the PS4 being pre-ordered for November instead of bought in October?


It's simple. US is the majority of Halo's market. If Halo failed on social media (notice I didn't say the Xbox One fizzled) then it's obvious that Halo would fizzle in the US as that's what would generate the majority of the interest on social media for the title. 

I am suprised you couldn't figure that out. 

This is my last response to you. But at this point, you're changing your words up. You did not mean Halo's software sales like you're trying to state here. You meant Halo's effect on the Xbox One sales.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7593173



jlmurph2 said:
Protendo said:


It's simple. US is the majority of Halo's market. If Halo failed on social media (notice I didn't say the Xbox One fizzled) then it's obvious that Halo would fizzle in the US as that's what would generate the majority of the interest on social media for the title. 

I am suprised you couldn't figure that out. 

This is my last response to you. But at this point, you're changing your words up. You did not mean Halo's software sales like you're trying to state here. You meant Halo's effect on the Xbox One sales.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7593173

Wow...just wow. That actually explains why Halo (software) failed as well.  None of the boosts shown a strong Halo relationship. Deriving data isn't hard jlmurph2. You are on the deep end.

If you want to attack me about my bad use of the English language, since it's my second language next...be my guest. Just like your attacking the numerous other members.



iTzCharlie said:
It's simple look this thread http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=209343 and tell me again that everyone was calling an xbox victory smh


Seems pretty split. Allot of peoples prediction was around 20 k difference interestingly enough. Allot of them predicted 100k  or more over the numbers we got. Feels bad man. I only looked thru the last 3 pages though.lol