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Forums - Sales Discussion - October 2015 NPD Thread! Everything is in the OP!

OneKartVita said:
jason1637 said:


The bundles dont come out this month...


You misunderstood me.  During October the ps4 sold a lot of those bundles aka pre orders.  So those sales are transferred to November.  on top of all that Halo 5 had all its previous pre orders added to October month.  And if that's not enough they slashed the price of the x1 with Kinect by $100 for the final week.  

 

The PS4 sold more in September than x1 in October. It looks like the taken king had a bigger effect for the ps4 than halo 5.

Nah, the ps4's baseline has been higher and September is typically a bigger month for consoles than September.

Really surprised the xb1 managed to win with a ps4 price cut. It looks like the price cut did very little for ps4 sales considering PS4 sold 297k October last year.



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jason1637 said:
poklane said:
Azerth said:
wouldnt be a xbox win without people trying to spin something negative into something positive.

FTFY.

XB1 won because PS4 did shit, not because XB1 did great.

Saying the ps4 didn't do anything is going to far. It had the price cut and Nathan drake bundle plus ACS marketing. And x1 had halo and a rush sail for kinect.

Yeah, you're just confirming my comment even further. Price drop + UNDC + ACS marketing = max of 6k increase. Shit.



Also where are the ps4 numbers? I hope it did ok at least.



poklane said:
kumagawa said:
This was due entirely to [Xbox One and PlayStation 4] generation sales, which rose by 12 percent to offset the 66 percent decrease in hardware sales for last generation consoles.”

So if last years October NPD is

PS4: 297k
XBO: 168k

12%

= 520.8k

and XBO is 304k so PS4 is 216.8k?

because if you increase October 2014 PS4 numbers buy 12% it beats XBO.

What I bolded in your post: this gen's numbers, not just PS4 and XB1. This gen = PS4, XB1, Wii U, Vita and 3DS. Those are all current generation consoles.


Well then is PS4 down or flat? because if it's 2.5% or more up it beats the leaked XBO numbers.



poklane said:
jason1637 said:
poklane said:
Azerth said:
wouldnt be a xbox win without people trying to spin something negative into something positive.

FTFY.

XB1 won because PS4 did shit, not because XB1 did great.

Saying the ps4 didn't do anything is going to far. It had the price cut and Nathan drake bundle plus ACS marketing. And x1 had halo and a rush sail for kinect.

Yeah, you're just confirming my comment even further. Price drop + UNDC + ACS marketing = max of 6k increase. Shit.

Oh i thought u meant ps4 did shit to win this month like last november.



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Abun said:
manny10032 said:

for reference 

Halo 3 month - 527.8K X360
Halo 4 month - 1260K X360
Halo 5 month - 305k XBO



http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=185250185&postcount=500


Nothing for MS to celebarate about.This is proof of Halo's decline in popularity,which is why they gave irrelevant data and that BS PR statement last week.Halo debuting on the 360 the first time had a bigger impact and Halo 5 can not even beat Titanfall.

The above depicts Xbox hardware for the Halo 5 launch in October compared to previous halo 4 launch in November which is a black friday and pre Xmas month,- so not a great data set for comparison really. Considering that Halo is a dying franchise (as many of you would like to point out), beating the beasting PS4 (which did amazingly last Oct at full price) on the heals of a $50 price cut is therfore a major accomplishment. Is it not??



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GribbleGrunger said:
This is last years October NPD:

PS4: 297k
XBO: 168k

Perhaps we expected too much?


Well there was one with a price cut and one with Halo... so, yeah?



jason1637 said:
OneKartVita said:


You misunderstood me.  During October the ps4 sold a lot of those bundles aka pre orders.  So those sales are transferred to November.  on top of all that Halo 5 had all its previous pre orders added to October month.  And if that's not enough they slashed the price of the x1 with Kinect by $100 for the final week.  

 

The PS4 sold more in September than x1 in October. It looks like the taken king had a bigger effect for the ps4 than halo 5.


Pre-orders aren't really sales because they can be canceled at any time.

ofc

The ps4 didn't have to go against a price cut.

So all the x1 pre orders from before October that get counted in October are not sales?  Yes of course they are.  It's a fact that many people bought or pre ordered ps4's that won't count until November. 



This npd report reminds me of the GTAIV will push consoles failure last gen. And the amazon thread predicted won? Guess it doesn't matter will get spinned in a win somehow.



jason1637 said:

Also where are the ps4 numbers? I hope it did ok at least.


don't worry about the ps4, it has been winning all year round.