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Reverting back to windows 7 is pretty painless, I've had issues with old laptops as well, mostly graphic card issues with old ATI radeon cards 4000 series, they would just shut down, reverting back saved these old PC's



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Thanks for all the responses. I just started the go back to windows 7 process. It said its only available for a month after you upgrade so I'm glad it acted up sooner rather than later.
I guess I'll stick to 8.1 on my other laptop. It's probably fine but not worth the risk with my work laptop.



SvennoJ said:

Since I upgraded my old laptop to Windows 10 it keeps shutting off randomly.

My kids use it to play Steam games but after a while it simply turns off. In Terraria, Portal, bridge constructor, not exactly a demanding game.  Can it be overheating? Is there some other problem with Steam and Windows 10?  I found some articles about Terraria crashing with Windows 10, yet in my case the whole laptop simply turns off. There are also some articles about windows 10 overheating laptops, yet the thing has made much more fan noise with windows 7 and never simply turned off. Could it be that the fan speed controller isn't working properly? Bridge constructer uses < 10% cpu, yet if the fan never speeds up maybe it slowly cooks?

Does anyone have experience with reverting back to windows 7? Is it simple or are there risks? I cleaned up the laptop already before upgrading to windows 10 so there really isn't much more on it than Steam and Firefox.

There is a failed Toshiba hotkey driver update, yet I doubt that has any effect. The rest seems fine. I'm running a test now, cpu temp is at 57%, fan speed 63%. Of course it won't shut off while I'm looking lol. Maybe it's something as simple as my kids hitting the off button without realizing :/ Well no, can't be since it has to cold boot after. It's a real crash.


Try looking at the performance monitor and the logs that the system creates. Usually the system tells you when something is off or broken but many people don't look at the right places (and Windows doesn't really hint at the right places where to look).



walsufnir said:

Try looking at the performance monitor and the logs that the system creates. Usually the system tells you when something is off or broken but many people don't look at the right places (and Windows doesn't really hint at the right places where to look).

I had the performance monitor up while testing, everything seemed fine, then it suddenly switches off. I didn't find any logs or any hints that anything was wrong. I don't know where to look either.
It's already done reverting, that went fast! The upgrade took hours lol. (probably due to my internet connection) All seems fine.



SvennoJ said:
walsufnir said:
 

Try looking at the performance monitor and the logs that the system creates. Usually the system tells you when something is off or broken but many people don't look at the right places (and Windows doesn't really hint at the right places where to look).

I had the performance monitor up while testing, everything seemed fine, then it suddenly switches off. I didn't find any logs or any hints that anything was wrong. I don't know where to look either.
It's already done reverting, that went fast! The upgrade took hours lol. (probably due to my internet connection) All seems fine.


Are you still interested where you can find logs? I can only tell you where to find it in Windows 7 (and probably 8.1) :)



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walsufnir said:


Are you still interested where you can find logs? I can only tell you where to find it in Windows 7 (and probably 8.1) :)

Sure, it's back to Windows 7



SvennoJ said:
walsufnir said:
 


Are you still interested where you can find logs? I can only tell you where to find it in Windows 7 (and probably 8.1) :)

Sure, it's back to Windows 7


It's in the control panel. Go to "administrative tools" (I think it's called this way in English) and there should be the even monitor. It logs several classes (like System) and aggregates them and sorts them by date and time.



Hiku said:
SvennoJ said:
Thanks for all the responses. I just started the go back to windows 7 process. It said its only available for a month after you upgrade so I'm glad it acted up sooner rather than later.

That only applies to the upgrade system, right? I assume you should still be able to do a clean reformat and re-install Win 7 and your key should still work?

Anyway, I'm not touching Win 10 until they get rid of automatic updates not being preventable.

Yes, there were 2 options. The clean re-install was also available, I guess you lose all installed programs in that case. This way I only lost the ones I had installed with Windows 10. (broken links on the desktop) Anything before that was still there.



walsufnir said:
SvennoJ said:
walsufnir said:
 


Are you still interested where you can find logs? I can only tell you where to find it in Windows 7 (and probably 8.1) :)

Sure, it's back to Windows 7


It's in the control panel. Go to "administrative tools" (I think it's called this way in English) and there should be the even monitor. It logs several classes (like System) and aggregates them and sorts them by date and time.

Thanks. There are over 53 thousands events in the system log. I don't see anything obvious correlating with the crashes. There are some errors, but not near the times it crashed. I know where to look now anyway.