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At least SE knows that every PS4 owner is still buying it next year lol going by these posts.



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Nice score Tomb Raider (2013) was good but could have been a bit better if they expanded the single player campaign instead of slapping on a bad multiplayer section just before it got released.



Abun said:
Nem said:


Sony did it in the past so many times. I can't blame Microsoft for doing it, but its not like i like it. But, business is business. This is not the state, its companies. You have no rights and they laugh at principles (look at all those shady/overpriced DLC deals). 

I have never seen Sony pay to delay a game on another system,but this is about TR and I don't want to make this Sony vs MS and their money hat deals.My issue is with Square who made the decision,but some people just had to defend MS as if their life depended on it.Ayway I was only going to make that one comment until some defenders threw on the cape.A deal is a deal,but we all have the right to criticise it.Only sheep would just ignore it.

 

Well, but that is only your problem and not the people you are arguing with. Sony did it in the past and it's been quite obvious. And especially for Tomb Raider but your attitude is already "I am right because I say so" so there is not much use of a further discussion.

OT: Very good reviews, I enjoyed the reboot a lot and it seems they could even improve. Now I wait for DF for the tech thread :)



walsufnir said:
Abun said:
Nem said:


Sony did it in the past so many times. I can't blame Microsoft for doing it, but its not like i like it. But, business is business. This is not the state, its companies. You have no rights and they laugh at principles (look at all those shady/overpriced DLC deals). 

I have never seen Sony pay to delay a game on another system,but this is about TR and I don't want to make this Sony vs MS and their money hat deals.My issue is with Square who made the decision,but some people just had to defend MS as if their life depended on it.Ayway I was only going to make that one comment until some defenders threw on the cape.A deal is a deal,but we all have the right to criticise it.Only sheep would just ignore it.

 

Well, but that is only your problem and not the people you are arguing with. Sony did it in the past and it's been quite obvious. And especially for Tomb Raider but your attitude is already "I am right because I say so" so there is not much use of a further discussion.

OT: Very good reviews, I enjoyed the reboot a lot and it seems they could even improve. Now I wait for DF for the tech thread :)


Sony isn't really in a position to spend a lot of money. The only reason why sf5 is exclusive is because Microsoft didn't want to fund their own version and rather work on their own ips. Tomb raider was bought simply for holiday sales and was to compete against uncharted. Honestly, Microsoft should see if they can purchase the ip since they want their own "Uncharted" and obviously square enix isn't that confident in the series or else they wouldn't take Microsoft's offer.



Snoopy said:
walsufnir said:

 

Well, but that is only your problem and not the people you are arguing with. Sony did it in the past and it's been quite obvious. And especially for Tomb Raider but your attitude is already "I am right because I say so" so there is not much use of a further discussion.

OT: Very good reviews, I enjoyed the reboot a lot and it seems they could even improve. Now I wait for DF for the tech thread :)


Sony isn't really in a position to spend a lot of money. The only reason why sf5 is exclusive is because Microsoft didn't want to fund their own version and rather work on their own ips. Tomb raider was bought simply for holiday sales and was to compete against uncharted. Honestly, Microsoft should see if they can purchase the ip since they want their own "Uncharted" and obviously square enix isn't that confident in the series or else they wouldn't take Microsoft's offer.


They aren't? Well, this gen they spend a lot of money for some sort of exclusivity. Destiny, COD, Assassin's Creed Syndicate, Star Wars Battlefront, Watch Dogs. SF5 of course, as well as Shenmue. Sony said themselves that they now rely on 3rd party developers more than ever and they do this exactly how you would expect it. They don't buy it off other systems but exclusive marketing rights do what they do and are also not cheap.

But yes, perhaps MS can buy TR, why not? At least in this case, MS has a *lot* of money to do whatever they want :)



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Very good reviews. I thoroughly enjoyed the reboot so I will likely pick the game up some time in the coming months, or if I find a good deal on it.



walsufnir said:
Snoopy said:


Sony isn't really in a position to spend a lot of money. The only reason why sf5 is exclusive is because Microsoft didn't want to fund their own version and rather work on their own ips. Tomb raider was bought simply for holiday sales and was to compete against uncharted. Honestly, Microsoft should see if they can purchase the ip since they want their own "Uncharted" and obviously square enix isn't that confident in the series or else they wouldn't take Microsoft's offer.


They aren't? Well, this gen they spend a lot of money for some sort of exclusivity. Destiny, COD, Assassin's Creed Syndicate, Star Wars Battlefront, Watch Dogs. SF5 of course, as well as Shenmue. Sony said themselves that they now rely on 3rd party developers more than ever and they do this exactly how you would expect it. They don't buy it off other systems but exclusive marketing rights do what they do and are also not cheap.

But yes, perhaps MS can buy TR, why not? At least in this case, MS has a *lot* of money to do whatever they want :)


Buying marketing deals is a short term profit goal. Buying an exsisting ip is a long term goal that is way more expensive. Millions of dollars for marketing deal (which they usually make their money back) is no where near paying billions (gears of war ip and minecraft ip for example). Hell, what Microsoft paid for Minecraft is more than what Sony makes in a year (assuming it isn't a loss of course). And just in case nobody figured it out, the console industry is staying the same. The only new AAA big titles that sold and did very well was Titan Fall, Destiny and arguably Watch Dogs this gen. Microsoft must know that this industry can be easily bought because there is only a few AAA titles that are very successful like Fallout, Halo, COD,ect.... while there is no growth.



Snoopy said:
walsufnir said:


They aren't? Well, this gen they spend a lot of money for some sort of exclusivity. Destiny, COD, Assassin's Creed Syndicate, Star Wars Battlefront, Watch Dogs. SF5 of course, as well as Shenmue. Sony said themselves that they now rely on 3rd party developers more than ever and they do this exactly how you would expect it. They don't buy it off other systems but exclusive marketing rights do what they do and are also not cheap.

But yes, perhaps MS can buy TR, why not? At least in this case, MS has a *lot* of money to do whatever they want :)


Buying marketing deals is a short term profit goal. Buying an exsisting ip is a long term goal that is way more expensive. Millions of dollars for marketing deal (which they usually make their money back) is no where near paying billions (gears of war ip and minecraft ip for example). Hell, what Microsoft paid for Minecraft is more than what Sony makes in a year (assuming it isn't a loss of course). And just in case nobody figured it out, the console industry is staying the same. The only new AAA big titles that sold and did very well was Titan Fall, Destiny and arguably Watch Dogs this gen. Microsoft must know that this industry can be easily bought because there is only a few AAA titles that are very successful like Fallout, Halo, COD,ect....


What new AAA (I assume third party) games this gen that were good (high meta) did badly? Because I can pretty much assure that any that did badly scored low and we're bad/mediocre games.

 

I can only think of Evolve and even then I don't know the sales of it. Shadow of mordor did great watch dogs broke records.



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ArchangelMadzz said:
Snoopy said:


Buying marketing deals is a short term profit goal. Buying an exsisting ip is a long term goal that is way more expensive. Millions of dollars for marketing deal (which they usually make their money back) is no where near paying billions (gears of war ip and minecraft ip for example). Hell, what Microsoft paid for Minecraft is more than what Sony makes in a year (assuming it isn't a loss of course). And just in case nobody figured it out, the console industry is staying the same. The only new AAA big titles that sold and did very well was Titan Fall, Destiny and arguably Watch Dogs this gen. Microsoft must know that this industry can be easily bought because there is only a few AAA titles that are very successful like Fallout, Halo, COD,ect....


What new AAA (I assume third party) games this gen that were good (high meta) did badly? Because I can pretty much assure that any that did badly scored low and we're bad/mediocre games.

 

I can only think of Evolve and even then I don't know the sales of it. Shadow of mordor did great watch dogs broke records.


I was refering to big AAA system sellers. 



Snoopy said:
ArchangelMadzz said:


What new AAA (I assume third party) games this gen that were good (high meta) did badly? Because I can pretty much assure that any that did badly scored low and we're bad/mediocre games.

 

I can only think of Evolve and even then I don't know the sales of it. Shadow of mordor did great watch dogs broke records.


I was refering to big AAA system sellers. 

I can't think of a limited edition/marketing deal that Sony didn't get a substantial boost from? 



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