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Sony: No plans to dial back third party deals in 2016

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KingdomHeartsFan said:
Dr.Vita said:
Playstation always has been and will always be the best place for third party games!

Nope last gen the 360 was the best platform for multiplatform games.


Almost all of my third party multi-platform games were better on the PS3 in some form or another.



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Sharpryno said:
SWORDF1SH said:

You have to be trolling or baiting, you have to be. Nobody can write so much dumb stuff and twist and turn their own arguments this much and actually mean it.

Accusing someone of trolling when they obviously are not is trolling... What am I baiting?  My point was how third party deals are going to get worse and two people replied to me saying they are happy Sony is getting back at MS.  You don't think Sony has slowed down on first party content?  How?  The more third party deals = the fewer first party content.  What is so difficult for you to understand about that?  How am I trolling?  

You just keep moving the goal posts. You started out by saying MS got Tomb Raider exclusivity because of Sony, that argument soon changed. You you started bringing in stuff about PC. Not even sure what that tries to prove. Anyway please provide facts and explain why third party deals slows down first party developement. I would like to know how you link the 2.



I say go for it! With them pumping up the exclusive output and adding this in makes the platform even more appealing!



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Sharpryno said:
BraLoD said:

Spencer said TR was to fill the Uncharted-like games void they had.

"Causing MS to respond by getting TR console exclusive for a year" LOL.

Wonder what was causing MS to respond with their 360 timed deals last gen...

It indeed makes one smile

MS had a massive lead and the deals started coming when they slowed down on first party content and when Sony started putting out a massive list of first party, AAA, exclusives.  It's more of the opposite now but 2016 seems okay for Sony in terms of first party.  Taking their sweet time.  

But MS has deals for Fallout and the only console getting The Division multiplayer next month, Dark Souls 3 and many more lined up.  They are also getting parity in graphics for many of the big games. 

Sony is a little late to the DLC party with CoD as those numbers have  been on a massive decline for awhile now.  Though Treyarch is the only CoD developer that is good. 


And Sony doesn't have a massive lead?

This timed stuff got really big with the 360, with things like Bioshock, Oblivion, Mass Effect, Star Ocean, Tales of, Ninja Gaiden...
Don't pretend what MS is doing has anything to do with responding to Sony, they were the ones that solidified this trend. They come from the very first years from the 360, they didn't started coming when they slowed down first party, at all.

DLC and marketing has nothing to do with the Tomb Raider deal you were talking about. And that deal has nothing to do with Sony doing anything causing MS to respond. Just stop this nonsense.



Sharpryno said:
SWORDF1SH said:
Sharpryno said:
SWORDF1SH said:

Just stop already, you've already changed you argument a few time and now you say Sony are taking their time with exclusives? Do a little research, count the XB1 first party exclusives and the PS4 first party exclusives. When you get numbers come back!

For the big AAA exclusives, what consoles are known for.   PC gets way more exclusives than consoles.   Zero flagship games so far.  I'll be getting one for Uncharted.   You are telling me Sony is pumping out first party content as rapidly as they were in the final years of the PS3's life???!! LOL. 

What should I stop?   Change what argument?  I have said nothing but facts about why this is a slippery slope in response to two guys that are happy that Sony is doing this to get back at MS. 

You have to be trolling or baiting, you have to be. Nobody can write so much dumb stuff and twist and turn their own arguments this much and actually mean it.

Accusing someone of trolling when they obviously are not is trolling... What am I baiting?  My point was how third party deals are going to get worse and two people replied to me saying they are happy Sony is getting back at MS.  You don't think Sony has slowed down on first party content?  How?  The more third party deals = the fewer first party content.  What is so difficult for you to understand about that?  How am I trolling?  

 

if its any consolation. i wouldnt call you a troll but someone who has no idea.

 

killzone and infamous no franchises ps is known for? from software game insignificant? 

 

pc way more exclusives? O_o

do you seriously call shovelware crap worth mentioning exclusives?



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SWORDF1SH said:
Sharpryno said:
SWORDF1SH said:

You have to be trolling or baiting, you have to be. Nobody can write so much dumb stuff and twist and turn their own arguments this much and actually mean it.

Accusing someone of trolling when they obviously are not is trolling... What am I baiting?  My point was how third party deals are going to get worse and two people replied to me saying they are happy Sony is getting back at MS.  You don't think Sony has slowed down on first party content?  How?  The more third party deals = the fewer first party content.  What is so difficult for you to understand about that?  How am I trolling?  

You just keep moving the goal posts. You started out by saying MS got Tomb Raider exclusivity because of Sony, that argument soon changed. You you started bringing in stuff about PC. Not even sure what that tries to prove. Anyway please provide facts and explain why third party deals slows down first party developement. I would like to know how you link the 2.

1. Consoles are known for big AAA games.  The PS4 is lacking in that area right now.
2.  When you bring up the non AAA games and how the PS4 has had a lot I direct you to PC where they outnumber the consoles vastly. Meaning I don't see why that is a pro to you as PC destroys consoles when it comes to games that are not AAA.
3. Ofc I believe MS did the Tomb Raider deal because Sony was getting exclusive content for stuff like Watch Dogs and Black Flag as well as year long DLC for Destiny.  Of course I cannot confirm this but it makes a lot of sense.  Sony is simply going to one up MS when it comes to third party and MS will try to do the same. 

The proof of less first party content is the final two years of PS3 exclusives vs the exclusives of the PS4's life thus far.  Sure it takes time but if sales were reversed I believe Sony would have had a lot more out by now. 
but opinions and stuff.  



Zoombael said:

 

if its any consolation. i wouldnt call you a troll but someone who has no idea.

 

killzone and infamous no franchises ps is known for? from software game insignificant? 

 

pc way more exclusives? O_o

do you seriously call shovelware crap worth mentioning exclusives?

I seriously hope you're not calling PC exclusives shovelware crap let alone claiming the platform has way less.



                                       

foodfather said:
I fail to see whats to be impressed about this. Multuplatform games should remain so. If its by a third party, why should one userbase miss out just because one company is throwing money at the devs???

When MS did it with a couple of franchises last gen, PS3 owners were upset about it.

Now Sony seem to be doing this with every game virtually having an hour or sometimes even more exclusive to their console and this is commendable???

This to me is lazy and cheap.

It's just the natural flip flopping you see from fanbases from one gen to another. It's worse here because between MicroSony, the Sony userbase is much much larger. So of course you saw more backlash and posts against certain things last gen.

Last gen paying for online was a joke, I would never do it! Oh, ok. PS+ is required. Well uh um uh at least there are free games!
Last gen indie/downloadable titles were a joke, I would never buy one! Now they are vitally important.
Last gen securing 3rd party exclusive deals was dishonorable, deplorable, and a sign of weakness. Now it's fine because publishers are probably begging Sony for it.
Last gen paying other companies to make your games showed a lack of devotion to gaming and a weak stable of developers. Now hey who cares man, it's fine!
Having certain devs focus on one big franchise is a bad thing, unless they are Polyphony or SSM.
Last gen performance/visual differences were no big deal, who cares! Now if one game is 1080p and one is 900p LOL why u gonna buy that PSone looking 900p garbage, breh?

Among many others. Of course, you could argue the same the other way. Last gen some here gloated big about MP games looking and running worse on PS3, now they don't mind the shoe being on the other foot. Among others. But again it just looks worse because of the amount of fans on each side. This is normal hypocrisy that goes on when people enlist for console warz.

That said, I'm surprised this is even news? I mean, surely these deals for timed exclusive content (and timed exclusive content inside of downloadable content, LOL, Destiny) are multiyear. It's not like they're just going to stop.



On the one hand I'm not a huge fan of moneyhatting, but on the other hand I own every console so for practical purposes it doesn't really affect me.



There are many reports from this thread. Why do you guys have to ruin threads by acting like this? Cut it out.

This is why we can't have nice things.