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Too many unknowns to really get any firm idea on what the deuce is really going on in terms of total sales.

Some thoughts :

Halo 5 is not a failure (duh) by any reasonable perspective. However, it may be in decline in terms of unit sales.

This PR release isn't really that different on the whole than previous first-week Halo MS PR efforts.

However, there are a few things that are odd, like :

They say Halo 5 software and hardware. What does that entail?

Definitely :

$60 Retail Game
$99 LE Game
$249 Super Mega Game
$500 LE Bundle

Possibly :

$70 Controller?
Headset?
REQ Packs?

And then you have the fact that a decent portion of the 'retail' sales could be counted as 'Digital' due to them being just codes that you have to redeem and download online (LE Bundles, etc).

Anyway, we'll know more as time goes on.

My guess : the series is in a slow decline, but still will have outstanding attach rate and a core fanbase that will still be fairly strong by the time Halo 6 comes out. People have to remember that ALL mainline Halos seem to sell in the same general range of ~10M LTD, plus or minus a few million from beginning to peak to decline. So if Halo 5 sells 7.5M LTD + or - a million or so, that's still a pretty big deal.

I don't know what kind of legs it will have though. This isn't 2007 anymore, there are FPS's coming out of our ears, and a bunch of them are about to drop that may cut H5 off at the knees in terms of attracting fans outside the core day-1 types over these holidays and beyond.

Any potential X1 FPS fan buyer on the fence certainly is not very likely to buy a $500 bundle when they could grab a $349 X1 with whatever game and snag Blops3 or Battlefront for roughly $100 cheaper.



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IGN claims Halo 5 saw the Biggest launch in franchise history.

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s89rZBV0zBQ

Article: http://ca.ign.com/articles/2015/11/04/halo-5-guardians-sees-biggest-launch-in-franchise-history



Awesome. Great opening!

Cant wait to see how much it boosted the Xbox One.



                            

LudicrousSpeed said:
These responses in the thread are amazing. I mean, it's Halo. Of course it did very well.


That's not the important question. The important question is if it did well for a Halo game.



LurkerJ said:
Barozi said:
whatever the exact numbers are, it's still a lot.

And that should the take-home point. It didn't FLOP.

Economically no (dlcs and LE bundles = huge revenue generation) it wasnt a flop.

Sales wise no (even if it looks like it only sold half of what older halo titles did, in the UK) it wasnt a flop either.



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BraLoD said:
kowenicki said:


nobody said people left due to downplaying. To deny this forum's quality has fallen dramatically over the last 6 years is amusing.


What about your claims toward PS4 sales being 95% due to lower price and calling people delusional if they didn't agreed with you?
Then when both the PS4 and XBO had the same price it was still leading, and even after being actually higher it keep leading all over this year, you were called because of that (when the price got equal) and what did you do? Got in the defensive and kept your "higher than you" stance after being so rude to people before you were proven wrong.

Don't talk as if you don't play that very same card as everyone else into this forum quality matters.

I'll translate kowen to You.

the forum is bad now because instead of making fun of sony fans I'm being made fun off. Ever since ps4 steam rolled x1 he have been very defensive and then ran from here. Just showing to talk good on ms finnancials or make fun of sony global loses.

- Moderated, Carl



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

H3ADShOt3 said:
IGN claims Halo 5 saw the Biggest launch in franchise history.

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s89rZBV0zBQ

Article: http://ca.ign.com/articles/2015/11/04/halo-5-guardians-sees-biggest-launch-in-franchise-history


They probably bought the Pr.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

"Halo flopped! The 400 million USD just happened, because it moved much hardware"

That is probably the weirdest logic I have seen in a while.
I was one of those who thought moving hardware is a good thing. Silly me.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

H3ADShOt3 said:
IGN claims Halo 5 saw the Biggest launch in franchise history.

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s89rZBV0zBQ

Article: http://ca.ign.com/articles/2015/11/04/halo-5-guardians-sees-biggest-launch-in-franchise-history


They are just paraphraseing the same PR text we have here.

Its again based in the 400$ million (hardware & software) sales revenue bit.

 

Basically xbox PR retold back to us, by IGN.



GamechaserBE said:
Angelv577 said:

I doubt anyone thought it was a flopped.  What they were saying is that it underperformed compare to other's mainline halo but it was obvious it is still going to sell millions.


...:

Ethomaz even in this thread:  

Halo 5 did flopped big now after these PR.

Even more than we expected.

400 million in revenue is a lot, even if it is a lot of bundles/or controllers/micro transactions, it shows that people spend a lot of money for Halo.

I don't normally read every posts especially if it has too many comments by the time I get into a threads.  Still I'm not sure if he meant it in a literal way but if he believed that, he is definitely  out of touch with reality and probably a bit bitter from the destiny threads.  Still, he doesn't represent the whole vgchartz community nor the sony fans as a whole in vgchartz.