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jason1637 said:
Wii u up by 11% from last year. Goog increase. And ps4 only won BF by 1% So I'm saying ps4 wins by 150-200k.
Also since Npd tracking ended for November and from pic we saw it looks like ps4 ha less stock than x1 since MS overstocked. Could this indicate that x1 is winning thus far or am I thinking way to into it?

I think that's a reasonable assumption to make at the moment. Perhaps the next few days will either disprove or prove the assumption.



 

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jason1637 said:
Wii u up by 11% from last year. Goog increase. And ps4 only won BF by 1% So I'm saying ps4 wins by 150-200k.
Also since Npd tracking ended for November and from pic we saw it looks like ps4 ha less stock than x1 since MS overstocked. Could this indicate that x1 is winning thus far or am I thinking way to into it?


Wii U isn't up 11%. They removed last gen consoles this year. And that caused the percentage bump.



Let's not forget that the Nathan Drake is still at #1 and it's now Dec 1st. PS4 wins December confirmed ...



 

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If you look at the charts, it doesn't look good from a trending perspective for xbox as a brand.
Losing 10% marketshare per year!? that is pretty significant ground to lose annually....



Bryank75 said:
If you look at the charts, it doesn't look good from a trending perspective for xbox as a brand.
Losing 10% marketshare per year!? that is pretty significant ground to lose annually....

Yes, the PS4 is ahead of what I predicted just under a year ago. I thought the XB1 would win Christmas by around 300K (down from last years 700K) and then NEXT year we'd see the switch around. It looks like the switch around has started early. If Sony can feed off this momentum with their lineup next year then I reckon the gap could be 3m - 3.5m by January 1st 2017.



 

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GribbleGrunger said:
Bryank75 said:
If you look at the charts, it doesn't look good from a trending perspective for xbox as a brand.
Losing 10% marketshare per year!? that is pretty significant ground to lose annually....

Yes, the PS4 is ahead of what I predicted just under a year ago. I thought the XB1 would win Christmas by around 300K (down from last years 700K) and then NEXT year we'd see the switch around. It looks like the switch around has started early. If Sony can feed off this momentum with their lineup next year then I reckon the gap could be 3m - 3.5m by January 1st 2017.


Ambitious, but certainly a possibility given the way things have panned out this year so far. I'm excited to see how the year ahead unfolds with PSVR, all the exclusives and big 3rd party games.... it's going to be very hard to keep up with all of it.



Bryank75 said:


Ambitious, but certainly a possibility given the way things have panned out this year so far. I'm excited to see how the year ahead unfolds with PSVR, all the exclusives and big 3rd party games.... it's going to be very hard to keep up with all of it.

Sony had a good number of exclusives during the first 8 months of this year but not what you'd call big system sellers, just games to keep the momentum going. Next year we have games like Uncharted 4, The Last Guardian and Horizon Zero Dawn, which I think could make an impact in sales during their release. Of course we also have many other titles that could cause minor spikes and then, like you said, PSVR, which won't in my opinion push that many PS4s but it will help raise the profile of the PS4 and so indirectly influence the sales of the PS4.



 

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Legacy said:


This is funny because when I search the same location it has 3 pages of the Gears bundle in stock.



GribbleGrunger said:
Bryank75 said:
If you look at the charts, it doesn't look good from a trending perspective for xbox as a brand.
Losing 10% marketshare per year!? that is pretty significant ground to lose annually....

Yes, the PS4 is ahead of what I predicted just under a year ago. I thought the XB1 would win Christmas by around 300K (down from last years 700K) and then NEXT year we'd see the switch around. It looks like the switch around has started early. If Sony can feed off this momentum with their lineup next year then I reckon the gap could be 3m - 3.5m by January 1st 2017.

I think Holiday 2015 was always likely to be a win for PS4 given the lengths MS had to go to to win last year. Sony was always going to drop the price by at least $50, and they had a lot more margin to play with to offer great BF deals, and short term holiday discounts. Even if the $299 base price disapperas expect the gift card deals to keep on coming. 2016 will be interesting to see if MS dives all the way down to a $199 price tag even if only for BF. I can certainly see a full $100 proice cut happening for Xb one some time next year for the base price to be $250. Sony won't go that low, but I think they will move to a $299 base price next year. I can see Sony's 2016 BF deals beig of the $50 off and $50 gift card variety, wheras I think MS will hit a lower sticker price. MS had a go at competing with PS4 at the same sticker price, and they couldn't get a win even with a gift card thrown into the mix at some / one retailer(s). MS may not be as focussed on winning globally in the USA anymore, but I think they do want to win a few big months at least, so I expect them to push for it.

Next BF Sony will have a Tomb Raider bundle in the same position as this year's NDC bundle, or beter still a UC4+Tomb Raider "Adventurer's" bundle. That would almost qualify as trolling Microsoft.

Anyway I was irrationally uncomfortable at the idea of Infoscout and Amazon contradicting one another for BF winner. And while they still do to the extent that Infoscout is saying the Gears bundle was the biggest selling sku, the overall outcome is that both of them have PS4 winning.  Or is it that Infoscout only says The Gears Bundle was #1 at Target and Walmart, but across all retailers NDC was bigger? Their PR really is kinda ll over the place and it's only the graph that is clear.



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jonhalo said:

that is close...
including the frist 3 weeks, ill give the ps4 the edge for November NPD

gap will be < 200k for sure
and possibly even < 100k

 

edit: hmm it's $ share not units share
bf le ps4 was $399 and the cod le ps4 $429

ms only had the elite and halo bundle at $449 (the probably lowest selling ones)
all other were $349


I'm sorry, what are u basing this off of? You stated this as tho it was fact, but u gave no evidence to support this statement. The BO3 and two SW bundle preorders alone likely amount to 100-150k sales. And were u watching the Amazon charts for the first 3 weeks of November? It was utter ps4 dominance virtually the entire time. Same for GameStop most of the time. And now it's looking like a ps4 win even on BF. So where is ur supporting argument? I honestly am interested in hearing it. I just don't understand the basis of ur comment.

Also, weren't u the one who just today stated you were "100% certain" XBO won Black Friday? Could've been someone else, but I thought it was u. And it's a similar "fact" statement as what u said above.