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MotherBound said:
What surprises me the most is how calm and normal everyone else seems, like this is a daily thing for them 0_0


Maybe the class knows she's being disrupted, and she needs to be removed from the room.



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Lawlight said:
That's overkill. Just drag her out by her arm.


What if she resists which forces the cop to pull harder, and the student claims that he was trying to hurt her?



TheBlackNaruto said:
radha said:
 


you are forgetting the context in which this is happening, the guys that perpetrated the colombine masacre were 17 and 18, that means one of them was a kid, people in the US are getting paraniod about any type of crisis going on in a school, the girl here should have done what the officer told her, schools are becoming like airports in US, anything can scalate quickly since there are other inocent children around, so no one is accepting any tipe of rebelilous behaviour. Note that I think that the officer could have manage the situation better, but the girl is not a victim, she created a situation in wich the teacher was scare enough to call the police, and the policeman went to a school, bad combination to start not doing what you are told.

So because there have been cases where "kids" have done some horrible things that justifies these actions? Am I saying the girl was in the right....not at all....BUT this situation was handled VERY poorly. No way that was called for in any form to get a misbehaving student out of the class room. I have seen fights broken up in high school with less force. So to first put the arm around her neck(chokehold style), then flip her over IN THE DESK then snatch her out of the desk and fling her across the room like a rag doll is unacceptable for an office of the law. This may have been necessary in other instances but not in this one...not at all. 

"No way that was called for in any form to get a misbehaving student out of the class room."

You dont know, the video is not show what happen before. And about the Justification, I know is not justified, but is like this, you know you should not get robbed on the street, but if you know there is a blakcout and if the middle of the night, you know that the context it not appropiate to go outside show off your new cell phone , watch or what ever. After 911, US very paraniod in their airports, and the reason is the context, in the US the context exists, why would you make the teacher call the police and then refuce to comply ? the officer made a bad decision but is not like there was no reaso, not that a reason is not a justification, but is reason.



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LivingMetal said:
Lawlight said:
That's overkill. Just drag her out by her arm.


What if she resists which forces the cop to pull harder, and the student claims that he was trying to hurt her?


Than the video wil show her resisting causing him to pull harder. All we see now is a student passively resisting and then being slammed down. Her head could have slammed into the tile and he was close to hitting the girl behind her. I've seen similar situations in school and they just drag the desk outside the class it's not that hard to figure out simple ways to resolve this. 



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This video doesnt tell us enough to make the extreme judgements some posters have in this thread.(about both of them)
I dont even think this is really threadworthy,the only goal it achieves is propaganda against the people that try to keep you safe.



method114 said:
LivingMetal said:


What if she resists which forces the cop to pull harder, and the student claims that he was trying to hurt her?


Than the video wil show her resisting causing him to pull harder. All we see now is a student passively resisting and then being slammed down. Her head could have slammed into the tile and he was close to hitting the girl behind her. I've seen similar situations in school and they just drag the desk outside the class it's not that hard to figure out simple ways to resolve this. 


"Passive resisting" = oxymoron.  You argument just felt apart.  No matter what the cop tried to do if the student did not comply (and the student did NOT get up on her own which she should have), the student will resist which will force the the cop to take further measures.  And look closely, the cop tried taking her by the left arm, she resisted.  Then, he tried grabbing her by the torso to remove her out of the desk, she resisted more.  Next, the cop tried lifting her out of the desk, but her further resistance caused her to be lifted with the desk.  And when the cop tried pulling her from the desk, she still continued resisting by hanging on to it.  So the cop had to pull harder to loosen her from the desk.  It was all her fault.



LivingMetal said:
I'm not condoning any wrong doing because as I said in an earlier post I don't know the whole story. So put yourself in this situation whether you know the whole story or not: What what YOU have done that would have GUARANTEED positive results?


Knowing the whole story about her chewing gum and being asked to spit it out and refusing to leave the class room. There are quite a few alternatives. Calling her parents or legal gurdian when she refused to comply or having the principle or vice principle call. Go forward with class and suspend the student for the conduct afterwards. Just two things that could have happened. But to have her put in a choke hold, then flipped over, then snatched from teh desk and flung across the class by a grown man.....no there is no justification in this at all.



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radha said:
TheBlackNaruto said:

So because there have been cases where "kids" have done some horrible things that justifies these actions? Am I saying the girl was in the right....not at all....BUT this situation was handled VERY poorly. No way that was called for in any form to get a misbehaving student out of the class room. I have seen fights broken up in high school with less force. So to first put the arm around her neck(chokehold style), then flip her over IN THE DESK then snatch her out of the desk and fling her across the room like a rag doll is unacceptable for an office of the law. This may have been necessary in other instances but not in this one...not at all. 

"No way that was called for in any form to get a misbehaving student out of the class room."

You dont know, the video is not show what happen before. And about the Justification, I know is not justified, but is like this, you know you should not get robbed on the street, but if you know there is a blakcout and if the middle of the night, you know that the context it not appropiate to go outside show off your new cell phone , watch or what ever. After 911, US very paraniod in their airports, and the reason is the context, in the US the context exists, why would you make the teacher call the police and then refuce to comply ? the officer made a bad decision but is not like there was no reaso, not that a reason is not a justification, but is reason.

Actually the story is out there now. It says teh student was chewing gum and was asked to spit the gum out and refused. Then asked to leave the classroom by the teacher and pirnciple and refused. So they then called the officer in. That's it....now again iam in NO WAY or form saying the girl did no wrong BUT the way the situation was handled was wrong...plain and simple.

Again the child was misbehaving but this was not the correct course of action.



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TheBlackNaruto said:
LivingMetal said:
I'm not condoning any wrong doing because as I said in an earlier post I don't know the whole story. So put yourself in this situation whether you know the whole story or not: What what YOU have done that would have GUARANTEED positive results?


Knowing the whole story about her chewing gum and being asked to spit it out and refusing to leave the class room. There are quite a few alternatives. Calling her parents or legal gurdian when she refused to comply or having the principle or vice principle call. Go forward with class and suspend the student for the conduct afterwards. Just two things that could have happened. But to have her put in a choke hold, then flipped over, then snatched from teh desk and flung across the class by a grown man.....no there is no justification in this at all.


And there's no justification for her not obeying if it were such a trival matter to begin with.  Because she disobeyed all forms of athority that were involved, it showed that she was the source of the problem.  And check my previous post.  She was in the wrong.  Period.