Ka-pi96 said: I'm the friend! Yeah, tomatoes are essential for pizza! I mean, without them it's just cheese on toast ya know...

Tomatoes where brought back to europe from america (I believe).

The pizza is much much older than os knowing of tomatos.

Back then the romans made pizza's without tomato sauce, they used a paste made out of olives instead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_pizza

You can make good pizza without tomatoes, but.... yeah I still think of the "classic" pizza as needing tomatos.

That's basically it. I don't count anything that doesn't have the basic things of a Pizza: Tomato, cheese, and the dough as a real pizza. That's a non-pizza variant for me.

Yes.. History has shown that there were baked flatbreads before the Pizza but only when the tomato was introduced in Napels its baked flatbread with Tomato became the Pizza

tomatoes fit pizza best. if you wanna have something pizzalike without tomatos, europe has some very nice pizzalike things without tomatos. like flammkuchen

Ka-pi96 said: JRPGfan said: Ka-pi96 said: I'm the friend! Yeah, tomatoes are essential for pizza! I mean, without them it's just cheese on toast ya know... Tomatoes where brought back to europe from america (I believe). The pizza is much much older than os knowing of tomatos. Back then the romans made pizza's without tomato sauce, they used a paste made out of olives instead. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_pizza You can make good pizza without tomatoes, but.... yeah I still think of the "classic" pizza as needing tomatos. That says the romans only had a precursor to pizza and that 'The innovation that led to flat bread pizza was the use of tomato as a topping' so... tomatoes FTW!

Its a wiki page though (not often 100% correct)... and Im pretty sure most italians would claim the pizza is older than them haveing tomatoes.

My dad is a foodie? foody? and he always says the orignal pizza was made with olive paste.

The romans wrote everything down, there are records of how to make a pizza, from waaaay back then.

Basically it would come down to fighting over weather or not its "right" to still call it a pizza if it doesnt have tomatoes on it.

But yeah it was basically made the exact same way, eaten the same way,... the main differnce would be the no tomatoes part.

So cheesy toast?

I like how we humans can mess our food up and come up with stuff like this:

Americans butchering italian cuisine? :p

a burger pizza really? reaally?

jk how does it taste?

I was not aware that there were people that 1) didn't know about white sauce on a pizza and 2) actually dispute that that's still a pizza.  I guess you learn something every day.

Not possible imo.