fruits arent veggis...  and broccoli and spinach arnt good at anything, they are just less bad than other veggies. paper is the most healthy salad, it does everything salad should do, and isnt full of poison like many other salads.

Veggies aren't the most useless thing you can eat, it's the complete opposite. The way how modern food is refined, it lacks most of the nutrients that are hard or impossible to have elsewhere if you do not eat organ meat. Fruits are much lower in nutrients than veggies. I typically eat between one and two kilograms of veggies a day, which is 50-100 grams of carbohydrates.

But you're right about eating too little selfcooked stuff and all the stuff that's used to replace fat with.

Energy levels do not go down - for the most people it's the complete opposite (such as I). On a ketogenic diet you seem to be too energetic, that's at least what they tell me. There's this adaptation period, usually a week or two, that you DO feel having lower energy level, but after that...

How you should eat depends on how you exercise. If you exercise high intensity (unaerobic), then it's carbs you should eat to fill your glycogen reserves, and low intensity (aerobic) is much better on low carb. People on low carb seem to drink butter coffee, of bulletproof coffee, but I don't see people drinking more coffee than they did on a high carb diet. The worst thing you can do is eat low carb and exercise with high intensity. It's what's going to eat away your muscles and make you sick if you keep doing it a longer period.

You are getting the culinary definition confused with the biological defintion. Do tomatos, squash, avocados and zucchini confuse you?

Vegetable

noun

Having read many scientific studies in my day I can relate to you to some degree. While studies can supply us with interesting insights into a variety of topics, studies like these tend to be kind of iffy in my eyes.

Do I think that a diet extremely heavy in processed foods and red meats increases your risk for cancer? I think it actually does. But does that guarantee it? No.

You also have to think about the lifestyle of someone who would have a very heavy diet in such foods. They might smoke, or not exercise, not have balanced diet with fruits and veggies etc. thus increasing the chances of cancer on that front. 

Also think about those who eat processed foods and red meats in moderation. Does their chances of getting cancer increase with each piece of bacon they eat? This study might make people say yes but if we take a a wider view of their life and see that such a person practices healthy habits on many fronts then I can't see their chances of getting cancer increasing all that much. 

And lack of meat leads to low testosterone. Pick your poison.

Low testosterone sounds better than cancer. But the article was about red meat not all meat.

No, it was about processed meat, hot dogs and burgers, not red meat.

I must have naturally high testosterone then. I haven't eaten meat in over 10 years, my sex drive is through the roof. Im always in mood to do the electric boogaloo lol.

Same here, people such as you and i have been on both sides of the fence and have lived the differences, meat is a dead energy and i dont miss it at all.