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Vodacixi said:
I thought that people this stupid (the ones who took pictures with him) only existed in movies. Holy crap...


They were dumb to do so. However, there are so few pubic attacks in countries like Sweden, it is a FAR more rare occurence than in America, so you could argue that people, especially kids, are far more trusting and naive.

 

The guy is still a piece of shit.



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Puppyroach said:
97alexk said:

i lol'd when you said ''we almost never have incidents in sweden'' Depends on what accidents you referr to

Well, Sweden is one of the absolute safest countries in the world, so what is so strange with what I stated? We have issues with right-wing terrorists right now, but thankfully that is an issues that will dissapear in time, just like it did in the nineties.

Sweden has one of the biggest ratio of rape in the whole world compared to its population. In malmö we have shootings almost everyday, and most are immigrants. Its not safe at all



Nautilus said:
Ka-pi96 said:
So rather than thinking 'oh shit a masked guy with a sword is wandering around, better call the police or something' peoples first thought was 'hey lets go take pictures with that weirdo with a sword'?

Well, it is near Hallowenn time, and Sweden is one of the most safe countrys in the world, if not the most.Plus, and not wanting to be mean or nothing, the guy was dressed cool.So i can kinda understand the kids.I mean, its really hard for something like this to happen, i dont know if i would imagine a random person would start killing people out of nowhere

I kind of agree. If this were the US where killing sprees in schools are common, people had probably behaved different. But in a country that apparently didn't have any school attack in over 50 years?

What I don't quite get btw. is why they had to kill the boy instead of just giving him with a non-lethal shot. I understand that homicidal maniacs with guns are usually killed when trying to stop them as they pose a very serious danger to the policemen as well; but can a kid with a sword pose such a serious danger to policemen armed with guns that they can't fire a non-lethal shot at him first? Since he only had a sword, the attacker has to come as close as about a meter in order to hurt others, while armed policemen can easily hurt an attacker from several dozen meters away.



Ka-pi96 said:
DivinePaladin said:

To be fair, in a world where school attacks haven't happened in 54 years, it's not crazy to think that these kids are sheltered from the truth that they're not safe. Think about pre-9/11 airports or pre-Columbine schools.

Sweden isn't really a different world though...

And pre 9/11 airports are a good example. After 9/11 did all the other countries in the world think 'eh, that's a US thing. Won't happen to us' or did they beef up their airport security to try and make sure something like that wouldn't happen to them?

A world where there hasn't been, according to this article, a single school incident since the beginning of the Cold War IS a different world to me. Sure, some of these kids (note, kids) might hear something about the US and think realistically about it, but when we're talking 6-15 year olds, they're probably assuming it's too far away to reach them. It's not unheard of for kids to be innocent, especially well over an ocean away from a world where this sort of thing happens monthly and exist in a completely different culture. If it weren't a friggin' sword, I'm sure this would be a different story, that's also a big factor. 

 

No clue why the adults involved didn't think a bit more rationally, knowing what the world is like nowadays. That's sort of where my issue is here. 



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ArnoldRimmer said:
Nautilus said:
Ka-pi96 said:
So rather than thinking 'oh shit a masked guy with a sword is wandering around, better call the police or something' peoples first thought was 'hey lets go take pictures with that weirdo with a sword'?

Well, it is near Hallowenn time, and Sweden is one of the most safe countrys in the world, if not the most.Plus, and not wanting to be mean or nothing, the guy was dressed cool.So i can kinda understand the kids.I mean, its really hard for something like this to happen, i dont know if i would imagine a random person would start killing people out of nowhere

I kind of agree. If this were the US where killing sprees in schools are common, people had probably behaved different. But in a country that apparently didn't have any school attack in over 50 years?

What I don't quite get btw. is why they had to kill the boy instead of just giving him with a non-lethal shot. I understand that homicidal maniacs with guns are usually killed when trying to stop them as they pose a very serious danger to the policemen as well; but can a kid with a sword pose such a serious danger to policemen armed with guns that they can't fire a non-lethal shot at him first? Since he only had a sword, the attacker has to come as close as about a meter in order to hurt others, while armed policemen can easily hurt an attacker from several dozen meters away.

We dont know if the policemen had to take him out inside the school, because if thats the case, then swords have sort of the advantage, since the halls would give too many blind spots, and swords are better for close combat than guns(if handled correctly of course).All in all, i think the police made the right choice.I mean, there were 2 deads and 2 injured and if they kept preocupied with not killing him maybe more people would get killed.



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John2290 said:
Vodacixi said:
I thought that people this stupid (the ones who took pictures with him) only existed in movies. Holy crap...

You have to understand, its not America, there just isn't daily fear of others here in Europe.


I live in Spain. Anyway, I guess you meant the northern countries in Europe.

 

Here in Spain, if some guy enters in a school with a mask and a real sword, we surely wouldn't act the way they did. 



hershel_layton said:
People are going to blame the guy, but there's some blame on the people who decided to take a picture.

I mean, really? Especially for the one's 12+ for age. That is the last thing they should be doing.

Idiots. They probably would have taken a picture of the twin towers collapsing instead of running away for safety


are you serious?

its near Halloween, tons of students show up in school in costumes (regardless of they are often asked to remove or not bring said costumes back). The students who asked to take a photo with him may have not even realized it was a real sword, there are some incredibly real looking prop plastic ones that are sold

the only one to be blamed here is the lunatic who stabbed people



Teeqoz said:


I'm sorry, but no madman, regardless of his skill with the blade, would be able to take out an entire class without anyone noticing. Not that it matters though, because I know you actually agree me, you just love to disagree for disagreements sake


I don't, actually.



Wright said:
Teeqoz said:


I'm sorry, but no madman, regardless of his skill with the blade, would be able to take out an entire class without anyone noticing. Not that it matters though, because I know you actually agree me, you just love to disagree for disagreements sake


I don't, actually.


So you would prefer to be attacked by a madman with a gun over a madman with a sword?



Teeqoz said:
Wright said:


I don't, actually.


So you would prefer to be attacked by a madman with a gun over a madman with a sword?


Depends. Is he at a close-range? Definitively. You could try disarming the dude. It's far more difficult to disarm someone using a blade than a gun.