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NX or NXDS?

NX (Home) 85 46.45%
 
NXDS (Handheld) 39 21.31%
 
Both at the same time 41 22.40%
 
Neither ever 18 9.84%
 
Total:183

Definitely the home console but if there were good features and a kid of mine wanted the portable, then both.



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If the NX was both a console and a handheld separate, but with the same games, I dunno if I would be down with that. I may just be fine with either one and not get the other. I like having an incentive to getting both,



 

              

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Soundwave said:

Most people will buy the handheld, it's just been overwhelmingly the more popular hardware version for Nintendo even though the console tends to get the "bigger games", so now that the portable is going to have all the games, I don't know how many people will bother with the console, or want to pay $200-$300 just to play the same games on the TV. I'm thinking they may be more apt to spend that $200-$300 on a Playstation 4 since it offers a different library if they want a console and just buy the Nintendo portable if they're interested in Nintendo games.


Maybe I'm wrong but I think I read somewhere that Nintendo said that not all games would be playable on both, that there would be exclusives as it has always been? So people would still have a reason to buy the home console (at least I hope so).

Also, I don't think the alternative to the Nx home console would be a ps4. The library is different, yes! But what if they don't like those games? The market for the nx console would still be there to anyone into nintendo games, even if they already have nx handeld.

The few exclusives it may have, playing on a big screen and... I'm sure there will be more advantages for buying it!

And just to finish, I envy you a little bit for having all nintendo consoles, I sold mine to buy the newer generation each time! And God, do I regret it everyday! :(



Cloudman said:
If the NX was both a console and a handheld separate, but with the same games, I dunno if I would be down with that. I may just be fine with either one and not get the other. I like having an incentive to getting both,


I think there would be software incentives to own both. Just not in the form of exclusive games. Rather, in the form of exclusive features. Like I've said, I think there will be a lot of games that will follow the Smash 4/HW models of having exclusive features for each version. Like Smash 4 had with Smash Run/Smash Party garbage, and like Hyrule Warriors Legend has with the Wind Waker content. I think you'll see a lot if instances like that for a lot of NX games, especially first party ones.

I also think that a lot of the incentive will simply come from people preferring playing some games on specific form factors. I imagine most Animal Crossing fans would rather play that on the handheld while most Zelda fans would rather play the next open world game on the the home console. And if you like both, you'll have that reason to buy both.

Then there's the, obvious to me, incentive of just being able to play whatever you want however you want, whenever you want. I have Shovel Knight on my Wii U, and I wish I could play on my 3DS too when I'm not home, but I can't, because the saves doesn't transfer over. That's a situation I'm sure a lot of people will feel when confronted with this reality with every NX platform game. It's just convenient to play the optimal experience on the big screen, then pick up where you left off on the go.

But I definitely think it'll be a rare occurance to see any exclusives on any of them, and if there are any, they'll be home console exclusive only, since all the handheld designed games will easily scale up to the home console.

EDIT: That being said, I don't think Nintendo will mind at all if people buy only one. The entire point is that they can profit no matter which skew is more successful.



Assuming all the games would be the same and the home console version would be better (improved graphics, textures etc) definitely the home console.



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Playing modern games on a handheld means taking an experience that's suppose to be immersive and ripping said immersion completely away. Playing a game on a tiny little screen on a bus, in the break room or at lunch is such a drastic drop in immersion that I really don't know how anyone does it. Different strokes I suppose.

So for me, it's console... and console only. If I want to play handheld games, I'll use ios and download free little time wasters which DON'T require me to be fully immersed in some engrossing plot/story line.



If I ever get one it will be the home console. I can´t stand playing on portables.



AlfredoTurkey said:
Playing modern games on a handheld means taking an experience that's suppose to be immersive and ripping said immersion completely away. Playing a game on a tiny little screen on a bus, in the break room or at lunch is such a drastic drop in immersion that I really don't know how anyone does it. Different strokes I suppose.

So for me, it's console... and console only. If I want to play handheld games, I'll use ios and download free little time wasters which DON'T require me to be fully immersed in some engrossing plot/story line.


While I respect your choice, it's arguably more immersive playing on a handheld. It's definitely a more intimate experience. Your face is a few inches away from the screen with headphones and you're literally inside the game. Especially one something like the 3DS where your playing with 3D. With consoles, you're usually several feet away from the screen, and it's much more work zoning the outside world out. Even on my Wii U, I often times play on the gamepad with headphones because it's more immersive and personal.

EDIT: I also never understood the "tiny screen" agrument. A 5inch screen a foot or two away from your face takes up the same, if not more, real estate as a 32-60 inch screen that's like 6-10 feet away. The percieved size of the screens are nearly identical.

I love consoles, but it's definitely not because they're more immersive. It's because they're more comfortable and more powerful. I would absolutely never compare handheld gaming to mobile games. That's never been what handheld gaming was about. They've never been, on the whole, about "wasting time."



I don't see the console doing very well at all. Probably the same group of 10-15 million people who bought the Wii U.

The GBA and 3DS both outsold their console counterparts by like a 4:1 ratio, that means 80% of people who bought Nintendo hardware said "hell no" to a Nintendo console in both of those gens. The Wii was different because it brought in casuals/soccer moms whom Nintendo has since lost, but even there the DS still blew the Wii's sales away by 50 million LTD.

So now the portable is going to have basically all the main IPs ... I don't think very many people will pay $300 to play the same games on TV with better graphics. Especially when so many people will already own a PS4/XB1 by then.

I will if that's what they offer, but I have a launch day Wii U and four (yes four) different 3DS models. I'm not the average consumer.

If they have two devices, and they play largely the same library, then I think it's going to be a 4:1 or even 5:1 split in favor of the portable in the real world. 



spemanig said:
zorg1000 said:
Would price of hardware be the same as well?


Doubt it. Console would be more expensive.


I think it will be important for them to be the same price, it helps with the whole "play any game, the way u want to" concept. I don't think form factor is the sole reason Nintendo handhelds are more popular than their consoles, other things like hardware/software price and software selection are huge factors as well.

For example, the most expensive 3DS sku is $100 cheaper than Wii U while software is $20-30 cheaper and has games like Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Luigi's Mansion, Tomodachi Life, Fire Emblem, Kid Icarus, Paper Mario, etc and a lot more 3rd party support compared to Wii U. Sharing a library helps a ton but they need to have price parity on hardware/software or else people will overwhelmingly choose the handheld over the console.



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