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Jimbo1337 on 06 October 2015
SpokenTruth said:
Aeolus451 said:
SpokenTruth said:
Voting for Donal Trump is like voting to make bigotry, racism, ignorance, hatred, greed and classism officially sanctioned concepts endorsed by the highest office in the land.


Hyperbole. So you're saying in one or another that anyone who votes for trump is a racist, bigot, ignorant, full of hatred/greed and believes in classism? I can understand if someone dislikes trump because of who is a person or his tv personality or his political beliefs but don't go around trying to paint anyone who would vote for him as a racist or something other bullshit. If other people in this thread can debate like mature adults, so can you.

Would you mind reading my post again?  I called Donald Trump as such, not the voters themselves though they would be endorsing it as officially sanctioned ideologies.

You don't have to be racist to vote for a racist however, once said racist is in power, that ideology becomes sanctioned at the highest office. 

Oh we all read your post and it is VERY clear in what you said.  I find it hilarious that you, the poster, don't even realize what you in fact said.  Perhaps you should take your own advice and read your post again.

I find it appalling that any Donald Trump thread cannot be posted on this website without these sorts of classless comments that are riddled throughout this Political Discussion   Argumentum Ad Hominem.

You and many others criticize Trump for what he says.  Might I suggest looking in the mirror.



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Aeolus451 on 06 October 2015
SpokenTruth said:
Aeolus451 said:

"Voting for Donal Trump is like voting to make bigotry, racism, ignorance, hatred, greed and classism officially sanctioned concepts endorsed by the highest office in the land."

You didn't outright say it but you insinuated it and that is just the same in my book. Regardlless, you're making baseless claims about his character instead of attacking his political beliefs directly.

Baseless?  You have read and listened to the things he has said, right?

Jimbo1337 said:

Oh we all read your post and it is VERY clear in what you said.  I find it hilarious that you, the poster, don't even realize what you in fact said.  Perhaps you should take your own advice and read your post again.

I find it appalling that any Donald Trump thread cannot be posted on this website without these sorts of classless comments that are riddled throughout this Political Discussion   Argumentum Ad Hominem.

You and many others criticize Trump for what he says.  Might I suggest looking in the mirror.

Is there some rule here that says Donald Trump cannot be critized for what he says? 

You're insulting anyone that votes for him and him without explaining any of it or your reasoning.  This is how discussion of this sort degenerates into nothing but mud slinging and name calling. 

"I dislike trump because I disagree with his stance on immigration" Is civil and respectful of others. "Trump is a racist" is not and it adds nothing of value to discussion. It's just the rhetoric of american liberals slinging mud. 



HBninjaX on 06 October 2015

For sure voting Trump. Everyone else is bought and paid for...

There is no other candidate other than Trump. Besides how funny would that be to see him sitting in the oval office? It's definitely going to make some heads explode.  See above.



Chasesdaddy84 on 06 October 2015

He won't even be the nominee for the Republican party so voting for him will be an impossibility Unless of course he runs as a third party, and in that case, say hello to President Clinton or Biden.



HBninjaX on 06 October 2015
Chasesdaddy84 said:
He won't even be the nominee for the Republican party so voting for him will be an impossibility Unless of course he runs as a third party, and in that case, say hello to President Clinton or Biden.


How are you so sure?  He's far and away the most popular candidate right now



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VGPolyglot on 06 October 2015
Aeolus451 said:
SpokenTruth said:
Aeolus451 said:

"Voting for Donal Trump is like voting to make bigotry, racism, ignorance, hatred, greed and classism officially sanctioned concepts endorsed by the highest office in the land."

You didn't outright say it but you insinuated it and that is just the same in my book. Regardlless, you're making baseless claims about his character instead of attacking his political beliefs directly.

Baseless?  You have read and listened to the things he has said, right?

Jimbo1337 said:

Oh we all read your post and it is VERY clear in what you said.  I find it hilarious that you, the poster, don't even realize what you in fact said.  Perhaps you should take your own advice and read your post again.

I find it appalling that any Donald Trump thread cannot be posted on this website without these sorts of classless comments that are riddled throughout this Political Discussion   Argumentum Ad Hominem.

You and many others criticize Trump for what he says.  Might I suggest looking in the mirror.

Is there some rule here that says Donald Trump cannot be critized for what he says? 

You're insulting anyone that votes for him and him without explaining any of it or your reasoning.  This is how discussion of this sort degenerates into nothing but mud slinging and name calling. 

"I dislike trump because I disagree with his stance on immigration" Is civil and respectful of others. "Trump is a racist" is not and it adds nothing of value to discussion. It's just the rhetoric of american liberals slinging mud. 

So generalizing Mexicans as rapists and Syrians as Jihadists isn't racist?



Aeolus451 on 06 October 2015
VGPolyglot said:
Aeolus451 said:

You're insulting anyone that votes for him and him without explaining any of it or your reasoning.  This is how discussion of this sort degenerates into nothing but mud slinging and name calling. 

"I dislike trump because I disagree with his stance on immigration" Is civil and respectful of others. "Trump is a racist" is not and it adds nothing of value to discussion. It's just the rhetoric of american liberals slinging mud. 

So generalizing Mexicans as rapists and Syrians as Jihadists isn't racist?


That's only generalizing and it's not racist by itself. If he's saying some mexicans are criminals or illegal immigrants are criminals and some syrians as jihandists or that alot of jihandists are syrians, it's not racist. 



Aeolus451 on 07 October 2015
SpokenTruth said:
HBninjaX said:

For sure voting Trump. Everyone else is bought and paid for...

Are you familiar with Bernie Sanders?

Aeolus451 said:
VGPolyglot said:

So generalizing Mexicans as rapists and Syrians as Jihadists isn't racist?


That's only generalizing and it's not racist by itself. If he's saying some mexicans are criminals or illegal immigrants are criminals and some syrians as jihandists or that alot of jihandists are syrians, it's not racist. 

Except he doesn't say 'some' to mean some are criminals, he says that only 'some' are good people.

"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending the best. They're not sending you, they're sending people that have lots of problems and they're bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. ... And some, I assume, are good people."

“The wall will go up and Mexico will start behaving.”

“Laziness is a trait in the blacks. ... Black guys counting my money! I hate it.”

“The only kind of people I want counting my money are little short guys that wear yamakas every day.”

"If I were running 'The View,' I'd fire Rosie [O'Donnell]. I mean, I'd look her right in that fat, ugly face of hers, I'd say, 'Rosie, you're fired.'"

“All the women on The Apprentice flirted with me — consciously or unconsciously. That’s to be expected.”

“Who the fuck knows? I mean, really, who knows how much the Japs will pay for Manhattan property these days?”

 

And on and on and on and on....

That's really stretching it. Most of that is just really blunt or at most just mean spirited.  Some of it is not even worth quoting. 

The common american regardless of their race probably says far worse every day behind closed doors or out in the open depending on who's around. In cities, it's worse. Hell, reverse racism is practically endorsed these days. World will be damned, if a white guy says something politically incorrect. 

I prefer a president who's honest about what kind of a person they are and what they're actual political beliefs instead of trying to blow smoke up some guillible college kid's ass.  



HBninjaX on 07 October 2015
SpokenTruth said:
HBninjaX said:

For sure voting Trump. Everyone else is bought and paid for...

Are you familiar with Bernie Sanders?

Aeolus451 said:
VGPolyglot said:

So generalizing Mexicans as rapists and Syrians as Jihadists isn't racist?


That's only generalizing and it's not racist by itself. If he's saying some mexicans are criminals or illegal immigrants are criminals and some syrians as jihandists or that alot of jihandists are syrians, it's not racist. 

Except he doesn't say 'some' to mean some are criminals, he says that only 'some' are good people.

"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending the best. They're not sending you, they're sending people that have lots of problems and they're bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. ... And some, I assume, are good people."

“The wall will go up and Mexico will start behaving.”

“Laziness is a trait in the blacks. ... Black guys counting my money! I hate it.”

“The only kind of people I want counting my money are little short guys that wear yamakas every day.”

"If I were running 'The View,' I'd fire Rosie [O'Donnell]. I mean, I'd look her right in that fat, ugly face of hers, I'd say, 'Rosie, you're fired.'"

“All the women on The Apprentice flirted with me — consciously or unconsciously. That’s to be expected.”

“Who the fuck knows? I mean, really, who knows how much the Japs will pay for Manhattan property these days?”

 

And on and on and on and on....


Yes I'm familiar with Bernie Sanders.  He's a life long politician and believe me, he's going to need big money donors if he secures the nomination.  Did you know that the NRA helped him get elected to congress?  Anyway we don't need another socialist in the White House

About Trump's comments, who cares?  We have a racist bigot in the White House RIGHT NOW!  He was a member of a racist church for 16 years and hung around terrorists and radicals in his formative years.  One of his former cabinet members, Van Jones, is an openly racist communist.  Hillary Clinton, the former secretary of defense is married to an accused rapist who was impeached for lying to congress and on top of that she committed perjury and accepted donations to her "non-profit" for political favors.  By the way she's broken the law with regards to classified information and if it was anyone else they'd be in prison right now.  A few off color comments from Trump pales in comparison.



Soundwave on 07 October 2015

Nothing creepy about that.